IS38 as a "stock" replacement

[CarlosCanizares]

I was just curious...

If one were to swap the IS20 with the 38 and keep everything stock (i.e: tune), would there be an advantage?

 

[RaysMK7GTI]

I was just curious...

If one were to swap the IS20 with the 38 and keep everything stock (i.e: tune), would there be an advantage?

You can't swap without the tune

 

[Stage2Sasquatch]

You can't swap without the tune

Didn't RJ run it without the correct tune for a long time?

 

[RaysMK7GTI]

Didn't RJ run it without the correct tune for a long time?

Yes...I believe stage 2

 

[gn4rwhals]

APR has a IS38 file that uses the stock downpipe, its actually pretty awesome they did that.

 

[drrck]

You can swap it without a tune, but it'll be pretty much crap IMO. Boost profiles are different, DV control will be an issue with the ECU.

You could even experience a loss in performance over stock.

 

[Kyle_A3]

Multiple people, including myself, ran the is38 swap for a while without a specific tune for it. While it undoubtedly gave us all extra power without the tune and none of us had any real issue, I wouldn't recommend it. The waste gate actuator and dv are compatible with the stock ecu and your car is smart enough to adjust for afrs. However you put the vehicle in a reactionary mode because it is constantly getting more air than it expects under boost without a tune. Because of this you will see the is38 occasionally just dump boost randomly especially under medium throttle.

 

[CarlosCanizares]

Thanks for the replies gents.

Where can one find the latest revision IS20 as a replacement? Say I want to do a preemptive replacement myself and not through the dealer.

 

[BravoMike]

Thanks for the replies gents.

Where can one find the latest revision IS20 as a replacement? Say I want to do a preemptive replacement myself and not through the dealer.

I saw one on ECS for ~$1,300 a few days ago. In sure there are many other sources to price shop.

Edit: Heck, I'm in a good mood today so I'll even post a link!
https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Engine/Turbocharger/ES2806293/

 

[gn4rwhals]

Why not just replace it with an IS38 and run the Eurodyne file? I can't see this being a warranty issue because you are willing to do the work yourself.

If I was to replace the turbo either a IS38 is going in or a Borg-Warner kit when APR gets around to releasing it.

 

[SpeedieGTI]

Thanks for the replies gents.

Where can one find the latest revision IS20 as a replacement? Say I want to do a preemptive replacement myself and not through the dealer.

Did your turbo fail?

 

[Boost3d.GTI]

If you give it a little bit, I believe JB might have an option for IS38. That way, you are not flashing your car but you can still utilize the IS38. Might want to check with George on that.

 

[CarlosCanizares]

Did your turbo fail?

Not at all. But I was just curious if this was a good alternative than getting another IS20 should a stock turbo fail.

Thanks for the replies gents!

 

[gn4rwhals]

If you give it a little bit, I believe JB might have an option for IS38. That way, you are not flashing your car but you can still utilize the IS38. Might want to check with George on that.

George had the turbo going into their GTI soon, pretty interesting to see what thats going to look like.