034 motor and trans mounts just installed!

[Cruiser]

Add HPA/Revo dogbone replacement and call it a day. 90% or more of the engine movement comes from this mount by design. This design so in no way like a cheap insert, it actually braces the whole drivetrain with its aluminum core inside the mount and stiffer exterior bracing. Very little additional NVH too, much less than stg1 or stg2 BFI engine mounts. Also easy to install, so you will pay less labor too. All around a win!

I have zero experience, but I think this is the best advice

 

[Quebster]

"The knock sensor registers the sound of the engine and converts it into electrical pulses. The engine control unit cross-checks the measured pulses against the stored specification values and intervenes to control the engine, fuel injection and ignition as necessary, before the combustion reaches the knock limit."
-http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/knock-sensor

By removing the mounts and going back to stock they are just treating the symptom and not the actual problem. If they were getting a lot of false knocks, they should investigate what is pinging or vibrating that shouldn't be (which would be amplified with the stiffer mounts) .

That is nuts! So there's a flippin microphone in the engine?!

My 034 engine/trans mounts are going in Friday. Hurry up Friday!!


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[Mk7GTl]

I logged my car at lower rpm where it vibrates 1500 and below and wot pulls and all sorts of logs and there was zero timing pull. What exactly are we looking for if we were to log a vibration that can detect the sensor to think it's a knock?

 

[0bLiViOuS]

Usually it's metal on metal that will trigger it, since it's looking for "pings" and high frequency sounds usually. Each knock sensor is tuned into a certain range. That isn't to say lower vibrations won't cause something somewhere else. It's not easy to find the source when it's not legitimate knock lol

 

[2slowvw]

I logged my car at lower rpm where it vibrates 1500 and below and wot pulls and all sorts of logs and there was zero timing pull. What exactly are we looking for if we were to log a vibration that can detect the sensor to think it's a knock?

If your car pulled no timing, then the knock sensor isn't detecting anything.

 

[Quebster]

I'd really like to see an example of what knock looks like in the logs

 

[Mk7GTl]

I'd really like to see an example of what knock looks like in the logs

Oblivious haha

 

[0bLiViOuS]

Lol any knock usually retards the timing.. unless they have an "allowable" amount, but I doubt it.. never heard of that being a thing

If you look at Ross Tech's site, anyone with a VCDS should be able to log groups 020 to see retard and 026 to see the actual voltage. Might be fun to log a car we know has a little knock and see what the voltage does and then look at that on a car with mounts

 

[Quebster]

Well I have a nasty rattle currently from something coming loose that's gonna get fixed on Friday but I don't have VCDS lol

 

[bluedoggiant]

Bought a dogbone insert, but I am holding off on installing because I am considering upgrading the engine/trans mounts at the same time. I realize this may be over kill as I do not plan on doing bolt ons - just a jb1. Really just want to kill wheel hop.

034 seems appealing for the close to stock style, but will it make a difference? Not too many people have these obviously, my other option is the BFI Stage One. Want to preserve ride quality as much as possible.

I don't want to trigger a knock reading though! Or is that only for the BFI Stage Two?

 

[Quebster]

Bought a dogbone insert, but I am holding off on installing because I am considering upgrading the engine/trans mounts at the same time. I realize this may be over kill as I do not plan on doing bolt ons - just a jb1. Really just want to kill wheel hop.

034 seems appealing for the close to stock style, but will it make a difference? Not too many people have these obviously, my other option is the BFI Stage One. Want to preserve ride quality as much as possible.

I don't want to trigger a knock reading though! Or is that only for the BFI Stage Two?

Mine go in tomorrow and I plan on writing a review over the weekend.

In my opinion these are probably perfect for what you want , in theory, but I suppose without enough people having them installed that's hard to say. My goal is similar to yours. I want to preserve ride quality as much as possible while still making the car powerful.


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[VOA West]

Ride quality and NVH I didn't notice any difference compared to stock.

 

[triharderken]

Bought a dogbone insert, but I am holding off on installing because I am considering upgrading the engine/trans mounts at the same time. I realize this may be over kill as I do not plan on doing bolt ons - just a jb1. Really just want to kill wheel hop.

034 seems appealing for the close to stock style, but will it make a difference? Not too many people have these obviously, my other option is the BFI Stage One. Want to preserve ride quality as much as possible.

I don't want to trigger a knock reading though! Or is that only for the BFI Stage Two?

Revo puck seems to be the sweet spot in price, NVH, & ease of install if you aren't autoXing. I'm gonna get it soon.


'17 DSG AUTOBAHN CSG

 

[Dave10781]

Revo puck seems to be the sweet spot in price, NVH, & ease of install if you aren't autoXing. I'm gonna get it soon.


'17 DSG AUTOBAHN CSG

I may go this route, then swap the mounts if it's not enough for me. It's good that they're not mutually exclusive options.

 

[Sportwagen SEL]

Bought a dogbone insert, but I am holding off on installing because I am considering upgrading the engine/trans mounts at the same time. I realize this may be over kill as I do not plan on doing bolt ons - just a jb1. Really just want to kill wheel hop.

034 seems appealing for the close to stock style, but will it make a difference? Not too many people have these obviously, my other option is the BFI Stage One. Want to preserve ride quality as much as possible.

I don't want to trigger a knock reading though! Or is that only for the BFI Stage Two?

The 034 insert DID make a big difference in my golf sportwagen (not with wheelhop, that car never had a problem with that) in regard to reducing drivetrain slop, however it did not help me with wheelhop at all in my GTI. I would recommend trying an actual dogbone mount like the HPA or Revo like everyone else is saying...