Littco L450 on it's way over the pond!

[SugarMouth]

Littco L450 Arrived!

I'll have Jeff from UM do the tuning. Should have some feedback in a couple weeks.

https://www.facebook.com/thelittleturbocompany/

Specs:

• 52mm 7+7 compressor wheel.

• 52mm turbine with OE blade profile.

• Upgraded thrust bearings.

Pic #2 Side by side . Stock IS38 thrust washers vs. upgraded. If you want to run 29 psi reliably then you need to upgrade from stock. 144% larger than stock and better designed thrust bearing.

Pic #3-4 Was balanced to less than .3g.

Pic #5 Collar on the left is the stock IHI. On the right Littco has their modified one to use with their thrust bearings. These are custom made solely to work along side the thrust bearings and retain the stock backplate and bearing housing.

Pic#6 Is a Littco customer's dyno with Littco tuning. This is flywheel @ roughly 25psi.

Pic#7 is Littco customer's dyno with Littco tuning. This is at the wheel @ roughly 25psi.

Pic#8 My car on 91 octane stock fuel system with L450. Had a bit of knock retard from shitty fuel and the reason for the drop up top. 28psi.

Pic#9 Improved thrust bearing design with three oil feeds. Tested at 2.8bar.

Thread on hybrids offered by Littco >HERE<

Main IS38 hybrids we offer:

IS38X:
Stock spec'd IS38 with clipped turbine
Upgraded thrust bearings
Cnc machined compressor cover
Slow speed and VSR balance below 0.65g
Price is dependant on new or exchange

L430 Supercore:
Upgraded core, 50mm compressor wheel, clipped turbine, and compressor cover.
This is designed as a basic upgrade to the IS38 where by the original turbine housing, actuator and DV are used and user swappable.
Slow speed and VSR balance below 0.65g
£750 ( aprox $990 )

L450 Hybrid:
52mm OE profiled turbine
52mm 7+7 compressor wheel
Upgraded thrust bearings
CNC machined housings
IS38 Actuator
DV&Muffler
Slow speed and VSR balance below 0.65g
400whp&450Bhp at C1.7bar
£1250 ( aprox $1650 )

L500 Hybrid:
54mm Custom large shaft turbine wheel
54mm Compressor wheel.
Upgraded thrust bearings
CNC machine housings
IS38 Actuator
DV&Muffler
Balancing as above.
500bhp@1.9bar
£1850 ( aprox $2400 )

L5656 Hybrid:
This is our new hybrid, yet to be fully tested. We have developed a 9 bladed turbine wheel using the same large shaft as the L500. This turbine is 56mm and will be used with out 56mm compressor we have tested to over 600bhp.
Upgraded thrust bearing
CNC housings
Balancing as above.
We will be doing a lot of testing over the coming month to see how the wheel compares to the existing 54mm wheel in various setups.
Anticipated power C550bhp

£2080 (aprox $2800)

 

[Diggs24]

Pretty!

 

[psychonosspaz]

So is this a "send your core" and they upgrade and send back?

 

[SugarMouth]

So is this a "send your core" and they upgrade and send back?

I know Little does offer core credits. I just bought a full unit.

 

[MyGolfMk7]

The pic of the balance sheet looks like it ended at 120,000 rpm, is that correct? Seems a bit low for a wheel of that size that is to operate at 29 psi.

 

[PacDawg]

I know Little does offer core credits. I just bought a full unit.

Price, including shipping?

 

[psychonosspaz]

How does this differ from current offerings?

 

[Jose_Gti]

Beautiful man, so jealous right now ;-)

 

[SugarMouth]

Price, including shipping?

13xx GBP shipped I think.

Most of these hybrids are in the $18xx range.

 

[psychonosspaz]

13xx GBP shipped I think.

Most of these hybrids are in the $18xx range.

Isn't that like 2600 USD?

 

[SugarMouth]

How does this differ from current offerings?

It's just another option. Picking a hybrid is like motor oil, you go with what you like. They all have their strengths.

I have been in communication with Dan for years and he was helpful in answering turbo related questions in the past. For me it was who I wanted to go with. Dan has been messing with the ISXX as long as anyone and has figured out what works and doesn't I feel.

I feel the tuning is more important than who of the top hybrid makers to go with. Having full control over the ECU and TCU (if DSG) is very important to making these operate correctly.

 

[SugarMouth]

Isn't that like 2600 USD?

Did you even convert it or just guess?

 

[s4in7]

The pic of the balance sheet looks like it ended at 120,000 rpm, is that correct? Seems a bit low for a wheel of that size that is to operate at 29 psi.

I would like to know the answer to this too.

 

[psychonosspaz]

It's just another option. Picking a hybrid is like motor oil, you go with what you like. They all have their strengths.



I have been in communication with Dan for years and he was helpful in answering turbo related questions in the past. For me it was who I wanted to go with. Dan has been messing with the ISXX as long as anyone and has figured out what works and doesn't I feel.



I feel the tuning is more important than who of the top hybrid makers to go with. Having full control over the ECU and TCU (if DSG) is very important to making these operate correctly.

Who do you use? I'm thinking of going with Frank from Mabo as all I hear is good things

 

[SugarMouth]

Who do you use? I'm thinking of going with Frank from Mabo as all I hear is good things

Jeff at United Motorsport.