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Cemetery

Ready to race!
Location
PA
Car(s)
2016 GTI S
I called HST a couple times about this, and the explanation I was given was that the hardware in the regular RSR kit is the same as it was for the mk6, but they have since downrated it for the mk7 because the 'torque is delivered in a much more aggressive way' in the mk7, which has resulted in failures for folks making above 380lb/ft in mk7 cars. They didn't recommend it for my EQT Stage 2 tune which they said would be right at or a little over the threshold of what they now say it can handle.

Also, they said that they re-built the Hybrid version early last year because of some longevity issues and some failures at the upper limits of what some people are making with big turbos, etc., and now stand by it up to 550lb/ft, and told me that if I'm not going to the drag strip, etc., that I should be able to get at least 50k miles out of it.

Of course this clutch is new to me, and I never had the regular version, so I'm just passing on what they told me rather than vouching for anything. Clearly some people have been fine with the regular version at pretty decent power levels.
Honestly kind of bullshit. I figured they downrated it for the mk7 because it has a harder torque curve, but 480 is 480.

I don't like that.
 

Boje

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Brooklyn, NY
In case anyone digs this thread up later, considering the RSR Hybrid Clutch kit, I thought I'd follow up with my thoughts after break-in: I followed the break-in instructions religiously, driving 1000 (very tedious) miles in stop-and-go traffic, never going over ~2500 rpm, staying out of boost, and never rev-matching. It sucked, especially as I re-flashed the EQT Stage 2 tune that destroyed my stock clutch as soon as the new one went in (couldn't help myself).

Anyway, the clutch is amazing so far. The only real difference from stock drivability is a slightly stiffer pedal, which took me all of about 5 minutes to get used to after install. No shuddering or vibrations in first, or reverse, and virtually no chatter. I say virtually because yesterday after putting about 1300 miles on the new clutch, I swapped out my 034 mounts for BFI stage 1 mounts. Doing this actually reduced vibrations (my 034 mounts were shot after less than a year – no launches, no track time, no abuse, they're just crap. But, ECS did refund them in full after I bought the new mounts from them. That was good of them. The BFI mounts are MILES better, the only change which might bother some people is that the car now sounds noticeably more mechanical, and it brought out a tiny bit of clutch chatter that wasn't there with the softer mounts. BFI evangelist @GTI Jake isn't wrong.)

I obviously cant speak to the clutch's longevity yet, but it's holding the EQT tune's torque well (according to EQT, I should be around 407lb/ft). I couldn't be happier with it, despite the expense. Fingers crossed i can say the same in 50k miles' time.
 

Boje

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Brooklyn, NY
Oh and I also had my valves walnut blasted, if anyone's interested in how they looked at 100k miles (sorry, these are the only pictures I have):

Before

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After

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Ridebjj

Go Kart Champion
Location
lasVegas
Those valves don't look bad at all for 100k. I was planning on doing mine in a few months at 55k.

Ive got the standard hst rsr clutch. I'm about to switch from uni Stage 2 to eqt on Monday.

I only gave it 500 miles for break in, and that took more than 2 months because I put it in at the start of lock down. I wasn't as good about it as you. I did rev match and occasionally went to 4k rpm. At 1500 miles now and seems g2g.
 

Boje

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Brooklyn, NY
Those valves don't look bad at all for 100k. I was planning on doing mine in a few months at 55k.

Ive got the standard hst rsr clutch. I'm about to switch from uni Stage 2 to eqt on Monday.

I only gave it 500 miles for break in, and that took more than 2 months because I put it in at the start of lock down. I wasn't as good about it as you. I did rev match and occasionally went to 4k rpm. At 1500 miles now and seems g2g.
Yeah that's what I thought as well, first time they've been cleaned, too. Hope your clutch works out well and enjoy the new tune! Thanks again for the clutch help when I was researching mine 👍🏻
 

PLF8593

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Philly
Car(s)
19 Alltrack 6MT
HS Tuning RSR is essentially an “aftermarket TT-RS clutch” that comes with a warranty and good customer service.

The TT-RS has 450HP stock
 

Ace92028

Ready to race!
Location
San Diego
I would get TTRS clutch, best for being quite. OEM feel, holds up to the power you want. Probably one of the cheapest too. Only con is you gotta piece the parts together instead of buying a "kit"
 

rye0pa

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
NJ
Does anyone know of anyone trying the Spec 3+ carbon semi-metallic. It is expensive but works with the DMF. I been leaning towards this disc as my next one. Hopefully not soon. LOL
 
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