APR DTR6054 Direct Turbocharger Replacement System

[Subliminal]

Lol Drews the best

 

[zucchinies]

1. Not being sarcastic.
2. I already have reading glasses.
3. Haven't been reading the entire thread because TLDR and I have more important things to do so please, enlighten me just for shits and giggles.

It’s just that his post had a (this is sarcasm I don’t think this is going to really happen) under it.

 

[Subliminal]

And you could pick it for 25% off on the flag day, arbor day, or other obscure holiday day sale that CTS uses to sell their shit.

Earth day? Catless downpipe sale!

 

[JC_451]

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Dude.

This is amazing.

Also, @Acadia18 gottem with the ole...Lloyd rule.(even after actually admitting it was sarcastic, most impressive)

 

[Acadia18]

You really think APR is going to shut down permanently? I could care less either way. Just viewing this thread for the comedy show.

No, Drew. I don't. I was being sarcastic.

 

[branman1]

Wow y’all need to chill . Shit happens sometimes and it’s not always ideal. APR might not be posting because they need time to go over the data. As far as I know I’m the only person that has actually sent data to them. Like I said before I urge anyone to go out and gather data yourself, the more the better. This is something new to the community. Shit isn’t always gonna be perfect. @boostnonu you gotta take it easy bro. You are more mad than anyone and the kit isn’t even on your car yet. Just give it time. It’s the weekend people are off trying to relax with their families. APR had people at their headquarters to run this live dyno/logging session. That really shows what kind of a company they are. Continuing to post in here crying about something we can’t control is useless. This is something that needs a little time. I guarantee that this will be priority once everyone gets back to work first thing Monday morning. Just chill!

 

[arob157]

The kit wasn’t rushed. It was on display 2-3 years ago at their facility and talked about.

Good info. Not sure this helps anything...I am pretty sure this makes things worse lol.

Wow y’all need to chill . Shit happens sometimes and it’s not always ideal. APR might not be posting because they need time to go over the data. As far as I know I’m the only person that has actually sent data to them. Like I said before I urge anyone to go out and gather data yourself, the more the better. This is something new to the community. Shit isn’t always gonna be perfect. @boostnonu you gotta take it easy bro. You are more mad than anyone and the kit isn’t even on your car yet. Just give it time. It’s the weekend people are off trying to relax with their families. APR had people at their headquarters to run this live dyno/logging session. That really shows what kind of a company they are. Continuing to post in here crying about something we can’t control is useless. This is something that needs a little time. I guarantee that this will be priority once everyone gets back to work first thing Monday morning. Just chill!

So 2-3 years of development. Then release a turbo with a calibration you aren't happy with...for which you paid your hard earned money.

This kit is supposed to be CARB certified. How do you trust a company that very well has underperformed so far? What happens when you roll up for an emissions check and it fails? Then you have an underperforming turbo and an emissions issue.

I will give you the weekend part. Everyone deserves some time off.

But why not post the dyno? That is what everyone is questioning.

 

[branman1]

But why not post the dyno? That is what everyone is questioning.

I don’t believe everyone is questioning this. I explained why I was going to hold off and seemed to be understood from most. Tell me what will posting the dyno sheets solve? A dyno sheet that has no before dyno to actual gauge real power increase isn’t beneficial at all. This was mainly to log info and gather data.

 

[PerceivedShift]

I don’t believe everyone is questioning this. I explained why I was going to hold off and seemed to be understood from most. Tell me what will posting the dyno sheets solve? A dyno sheet that has no before dyno to actual gauge real power increase isn’t beneficial at all. This was mainly to log info and gather data.

Come on bran, swap back to stock and dyno, what are you waiting for?!

 

[riceburner]

And, arob157, no one has proven this isn't a carb compliant setup YET. My obdeleven test appeared to indicate not-readiness, but despite driving 3-500 miles, I very well may NOT have run the actual sequence shared by someone else to trigger all of the readiness monitors, quoting from the data source for info.

I am going to attempt to run off of these steps over the next few days then check again.

'How to Perform a Volkswagen Drive Cycle

The VW OBD-II drive cycle is an eight-step process. An explanation of each step is provided below. Total drive cycle time is 12 minutes.


NOTE: Do not leave the key on prior to the cold start or the oxygen sensor (O2S) heater monitor may not run.

Step 1: Cold Start — The ECM determines the presence of a cold start by comparing the engine coolant temperature to the ambient air temperature during startup. The engine is considered cold when:

• Engine coolant temperature is below 122°F.

• Engine coolant and intake air temperatures are within 11°F of each other at startup. During this period, the O2S heater, misfire, AIR, fuel system, and EVAP monitors run.

Step 2: Idle 2 1/2 Minutes — Turn the air conditioning (A/C) and headlights on to help the misfire monitor—the additional electrical loads help even out combustion pulses. During this period, the O2S heater, AIR, EVAP, misfire, and possibly fuel system (if operating in closed loop) monitors run.

Step 3: Accelerate — Prior to accelerating, turn off the A/C and headlights (if you had them on during step 2). Open the throttle halfway until you reach 55 mph. During acceleration, the misfire, fuel system, and EVAP monitors run.

Step 4: Steady State Cruise 3 Minutes — During this portion of the cycle, the O2S, AIR, EGR, EVAP, misfire, and fuel system monitors run.

Step 5: Decelerate — Gradually coast down to 20 mph without applying the brakes. Also, on manual transmission vehicles, remain in high gear and do not press the clutch. During this period, the EGR, EVAP, and fuel system monitors run.

Step 6: Accelerate—Apply ¾ throttle until reaching 60 MPH. During acceleration, the misfire, fuel system, and EVAP monitors run.

Step 7: Steady State Cruise 5 Minutes — During this period, the CAT, O2S, AIR, EGR, EVAP, misfire, and fuel system monitors run.

Step 8: Decelerate — Gradually coast down to 0 mph without applying the brakes. Also, on manual transmission vehicles, remain in high gear and do not press the clutch. During this portion of the Drive Cycle, the EGR, EVAP, and fuel system monitors run.

NOTE: If the CAT is marginal and the battery was disconnected prior to the drive cycle, it may take up to five separate drive cycles in order to determine the state of the catalytic converter."

 

[arob157]

I don’t believe everyone is questioning this. I explained why I was going to hold off and seemed to be understood from most. Tell me what will posting the dyno sheets solve? A dyno sheet that has no before dyno to actual gauge real power increase isn’t beneficial at all. This was mainly to log info and gather data.

Did you ever dyno your car previously on the same dyno? That is fair if you don't have a baseline comparison whether on a stock tune or a "staged" off the shelf tune.

Got logs to share? I leave all mine public. This isn't rocket science. It is physics.

 

[riceburner]

Obviously a huge company like this is not going to just let everyone pound sand, they will be ensuring that either a) we are all crazy or b) fixing the issue.

 

[arob157]

And, arob157, no one has proven this isn't a carb compliant setup YET. My obdeleven test appeared to indicate not-readiness, but despite driving 3-500 miles, I very well may NOT have run the actual sequence shared by someone else to trigger all of the readiness monitors, quoting from the data source for info.

I am going to attempt to run off of these steps over the next few days then check again.

'How to Perform a Volkswagen Drive Cycle

The VW OBD-II drive cycle is an eight-step process. An explanation of each step is provided below. Total drive cycle time is 12 minutes.


NOTE: Do not leave the key on prior to the cold start or the oxygen sensor (O2S) heater monitor may not run.

Step 1: Cold Start — The ECM determines the presence of a cold start by comparing the engine coolant temperature to the ambient air temperature during startup. The engine is considered cold when:

• Engine coolant temperature is below 122°F.

• Engine coolant and intake air temperatures are within 11°F of each other at startup. During this period, the O2S heater, misfire, AIR, fuel system, and EVAP monitors run.

Step 2: Idle 2 1/2 Minutes — Turn the air conditioning (A/C) and headlights on to help the misfire monitor—the additional electrical loads help even out combustion pulses. During this period, the O2S heater, AIR, EVAP, misfire, and possibly fuel system (if operating in closed loop) monitors run.

Step 3: Accelerate — Prior to accelerating, turn off the A/C and headlights (if you had them on during step 2). Open the throttle halfway until you reach 55 mph. During acceleration, the misfire, fuel system, and EVAP monitors run.

Step 4: Steady State Cruise 3 Minutes — During this portion of the cycle, the O2S, AIR, EGR, EVAP, misfire, and fuel system monitors run.

Step 5: Decelerate — Gradually coast down to 20 mph without applying the brakes. Also, on manual transmission vehicles, remain in high gear and do not press the clutch. During this period, the EGR, EVAP, and fuel system monitors run.

Step 6: Accelerate—Apply ¾ throttle until reaching 60 MPH. During acceleration, the misfire, fuel system, and EVAP monitors run.

Step 7: Steady State Cruise 5 Minutes — During this period, the CAT, O2S, AIR, EGR, EVAP, misfire, and fuel system monitors run.

Step 8: Decelerate — Gradually coast down to 0 mph without applying the brakes. Also, on manual transmission vehicles, remain in high gear and do not press the clutch. During this portion of the Drive Cycle, the EGR, EVAP, and fuel system monitors run.

NOTE: If the CAT is marginal and the battery was disconnected prior to the drive cycle, it may take up to five separate drive cycles in order to determine the state of the catalytic converter."

Yeah all good on that front.

Not trying to call the CARB compliance into question. Truly. I have no doubts that monitors aren't effected.

Apologies for poking the bear and dragging this on.

I just want to see some sort of data. We have videos. A couple of underwhelming VCDS logs. And 120 pages of chat in 40 days since the product's release.

Suppose I am excited to see a spicy thread other then @Acadia18 buying steering wheels lol

 

[Acadia18]

I don’t believe everyone is questioning this. I explained why I was going to hold off and seemed to be understood from most. Tell me what will posting the dyno sheets solve? A dyno sheet that has no before dyno to actual gauge real power increase isn’t beneficial at all. This was mainly to log info and gather data.

Tell me the dyno results weren't anywhere near 400hp without telling me the dyno results weren't anywhere near 400hp

I kid, I kid. I have no skin in this game, and really do hope the kit succeeds.

 

[PerceivedShift]

Also, doesn't MAP use a dynojet? Those dynos if anything read a little high. If it didn't make 400whp on a dynojet it ain't making 400whp on anything else.