I don't think you understand. It's not a question of which is more accurate. The weight of the Sportwagen with DSG and 4Motion you got is useless for this discussion without putting the other car, the Golf R, on the same scale on the same day. We're looking for consistency here between the two, not an accurate real world weight for only
one of the two cars in question. It's kind of like dynoing your car on one dyno and somebody else dynoing theirs on a completely different type of dyno somewhere else. It's not an apples to apples comparison and numbers will vary depending on the dyno and other variables. Like I said, if you put the R on that same scale, it will weight less. Volkswagen has published accurate and more importantly, COMPARATIVE curb weights for both cars using the same set of variables (scale, fuel load, etc) and the R is always lighter as per the official VW specs.
I don't think YOU understand. I'm getting my numbers directly from the VW website and you're getting yours from an amazon cloud storage service and trying to pretend that they're somehow more legitimate. So yah, it's kind of a question of which is more accurate. Especially since that's all you're using to defend your argument.
Like I said, you're not accounting for vehicle options and scale inaccuracies. The scale you went on even says it's "NON-CERTIFIED." That's for farm and garden purposes which may or may not provide accurate vehicle weights. 3,280lbs plus the 2/3 of fuel difference @ 6.2lbs per gallon is roughly 60lbs. So that brings you to 3,340 with a full tank. You're now only 18lbs away from the VW published weight. That's pretty damn close especially when you factor in differences in scales and any equipment/options between the two Sportwagens in question (VW's and yours).
LOL....it's a certified public scale thats at a garden center. It's large enough to drive an 18wheeler on and it's used for official DMV purposes. The form says non-certified because the form is non-certified. I wasn't going to pay an extra $10 for an official DMV form when I don't need it. It doesn't affect the weight reading at all. And what equipment/options are you talking about that are going to affect weight? The only option on the GSW 4motion is DSG or manual and we've already extablished that we're talking about DSG cars. So unless you think paint or interior color affects weight, there's no other variations.
I'm going to break down the math for you, and I'm no longer spotting the 10lbs of crap in my car since you're being so pig-headed. Actual weight of my car on scale 3280. Subtract 10 pounds of junk and 30 pounds of gas and you get 3240. That's within 6lbs of the 3246 on the official VW website with no fuel. Now if you add 60lbs of gas and subtract 10 for the junk and you get 3330. 28lb difference from your number with a supposed full tank. Which makes the number on the VW website more plausible than yours as well.
I believe the reason why he was trapping about the same was mostly from the higher compression ratio. That's probably worth 15-20 HP. His race weight may also have been 100lbs less than yours depending on how just how fat you are. It's tough to answer your question without knowing exact race weights, but as you know DA will also play a role, as will where starting IATs were for both cars at the start of the run. These cars pull timing depending on IAT among other factors. So as you can see, there are a lot of variables. But I do believe the 1.8T may be able to make almost as much if not the same power as the 2.0T but only the 2.0T in the R/TTS/S3 since those cars are at a disadvantage due to the lower compression ratio.
My car wasn't pulling timing. I've already stated that my logs showed plenty of timing. So you think that .3 compression on a smaller motor with less cylinder head flow is the difference maker? And a 1000 DA difference? Ok.
FYI: Your specs sheets that you're using as VW fact list both the R 2.0l and Golf 1.8 as 9.6:1 compression. So, either your spec sheets are wrong or your compression theory is shot to shit. Which one is it?
I'd also like to point out that when pulling his seats, Chuck also gets to pull that jack and spare you were talking about. And the cargo covers that are heavier than the R equivalent. I'm sure that 1.8 was dialed in and making good power, but weight was the big factor in his time vs. the Rs on the list.