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Old 01-19-2018, 07:35 PM   #18
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I couldn't believe the difference APR stage 1 was made as well, it's incredible. Added the TCU tune a few weeks back and that made a huge difference as well. Added a drop in filter and she makes a great sound now, disabled the soundactor with my obdeleven yesterday plus a few tweaks. Really really happy with the car now, might have to go for drive today, super warm here in Ohio, finally above freezing for once

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Old 01-19-2018, 07:39 PM   #19
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thinking about switching to apr stage 1 when spring rolls around, from jb4. Ive heard apr power tapers off more than other tunes past 5k rpms, is that true/a big downside? their 1/4 timeslips suggests that doesnt matter lol
I had APR on my MK6 and it was an awesome upgrade from stock. I would like to hear of your experience from JB4, specifically how much of a difference it made.. 10%, 20%? please report back
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Old 01-19-2018, 07:43 PM   #20
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My last 2 GTI's were automatic with APR Stage 1. Both transmissions slipped. Have your pennies saved up.
For real? I thought the stock DSG was good to a much higher HP than stage 1.
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Old 01-19-2018, 07:54 PM   #21
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For real? I thought the stock DSG was good to a much higher HP than stage 1.
Had an APR stage2 MK5 DSG that never had slip.

Current MK7 Cobb custom also has no slip.

Wonder if when he said automatic he meant the 5 speed and not DSG
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:29 PM   #22
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I ran Apr 93 octane everyday for over 35,000 miles and can say without a shadow of a doubt that it is hands down the best bang for buck flash tune that has ever been offered. On any car. And I've had a lot.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:12 PM   #23
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I ran Apr 93 octane everyday for over 35,000 miles and can say without a shadow of a doubt that it is hands down the best bang for buck flash tune that has ever been offered. On any car. And I've had a lot.
Sounds like Ludicrous mode
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:46 PM   #24
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The app plus tune is now the exact same as their stage 1 91 octane tune. So it's actually a good deal since you get a 3rd party warranty and can put apr bolt ons as well and still be covered. Kinda wish they had it nearby when I got my R.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:05 PM   #25
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For real? I thought the stock DSG was good to a much higher HP than stage 1.
That's very unusual, the DSG should be good for stage 1 and more.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:20 PM   #26
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That's very unusual, the DSG should be good for stage 1 and more.


APR recommends the TCU tune for stage 1 93 octane high torque because you are pushing close to 400 ft lbs of torque.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:28 PM   #27
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APR recommends the TCU tune for stage 1 93 octane high torque because you are pushing close to 400 ft lbs of torque.
It's recommended not a must. Of course they are going to push their own tune. There are many more advantages to the DSG tune, other than the increased torque limits.

I think it's a great idea to have both, but you don't NEED the DSG tune for stage 1.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:52 PM   #28
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Have both the ECU and TCU tune, the TCU tune is incredible, drives much much better then stock I'd almost be happy with just it if I had to choose between a APR ECU tune and the TCU tune

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Old 01-21-2018, 06:55 AM   #29
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Everyone I talk with has something different to say regarding the APR Stage 1 ECU tune vs the TCU tune. The verdict seems completely split on getting just ECU, TCU, or both tuned. Are there any definitive reports of MK7 DSG trans slipping with just APR's Stage 1 ECU tune?
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:37 AM   #30
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I did the lowering springs and wheel spacers the same time I had the shop do the APR tune. Definitely makes the car look a lot better, IMO.

Why wheel spacers? To push the stock wheels out? Are the lug bolts long enough?
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Old 01-21-2018, 02:17 PM   #31
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Are there any definitive reports of MK7 DSG trans slipping with just APR's Stage 1 ECU tune?
You can dig up Arin's quote...oh, hell here it is:

"Stock will begin to show signs of slip when the ECU/TCU thinks it's producing around 380 ft-lbs."

And for good measure a disclaimer tidbit from him:

"The stock DSG transmission will stop increasing clamping force once above a torque level it would never see with the stock software. Because of this, in some situations, it will begin to slip, and cause increase wear.*"

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19107
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Old 01-21-2018, 04:21 PM   #32
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I really want this tune, I just hate the thought of having to upgrade my clutch since this is my daily driver. ugh.
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Old 01-21-2018, 08:47 PM   #33
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thinking of finally tuning my 11k gti. UNI Stage1+ with the dsg as well. My fingers are itching. Not sure if i should go all out or just get new tires.
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:42 PM   #34
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Why wheel spacers? To push the stock wheels out? Are the lug bolts long enough?
I just wanted the wheels to fit the car better. Just for cosmetics.
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