I don't know for sure but he was being very abusive & childish in his posts towards me in this thread.....
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7855&page=2
One or two of his post have been removed..........I have been on other forums for a number of years & "idiots" are a hazard, so I chose to ignore his abusive posts (which were deleted by someone)...........I logged off for a time (out for the afternoon). When I logged back I saw that he was banned........NOT my doing I hasten to add!!!
He couldn't state why I was wrong in what I state & chose to ignore that I had mentioned "vertical moment of inertia"................
Him stating just "Mass" is so incorrect for dealing with handling it's not true! "Mass" as a term is very limiting in engineering structural, & automotive, calculations. (I studied structural engineering at University)
Bore yourself stupid.............good linky to suspension design
http://www.rqriley.com/suspensn.htm
In fact we don't use Newtons "Absolute" system, but the "engineering or gravitational" system. In handling terms it is more important to calculate where the weight in the car is relative to the front & rear axles, the central axis & the moment of inertia (polar)! i.e the "dumb-bell" principal....
"Mass" has nothing to do with handling details, you could have two cars with the same external dimensions, same wheelbase, same mass but totally different handling because of where each of the weights of the items in the car are relative to the front & rear axles etc etc..................
..also in a braking situation the estate has the extra 80kg weight increase over the hatch.............all of it acting on the rear axle!!!...so better braking from the rear & better balance.............also it would understeer less than the hatch as the rear will balance the heavy nose "out"...............also most of the weight of the estate is in the exhaust, spare wheel well & crash bar & floor pan.......all items which are low off the ground.......................
Sorry to bore but I'll end now..............
He also stated I should read what he has written, but did not include any links..............