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The COVID19 SCAMdemic... Economy So Strong That eBay Hard Up For Business

riceburner

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I've always been honest with my views, and that's why they don't fit into some "liberal box" as many here might hope. I'm a hawk on China and believe COVID is likely the result of a covered-up lab leak in Wuhan (and I've had that position since at least early 2021). I also believe in science and numbers, and why I think all this "scandemic" stuff about some type of conspiracy by the govt is just total garbage with conservative talking heads making money off of the ignorant and uninformed... as such, I just got my booster shot of the Pfizer vaccine. I also believe science on the use of masks (KN95 or N95 in particular).

Oddly, though, as a Democrat, it's odd that I'm the one in seeming position of supporting private drug companies such as Pfizer. I have no illusion that US drug companies are responsible for a number of wrongs and misdeeds, but it's odd that a Democrat like me is the one defending private drug companies and the Republicans here (or people that claim to be Independents but vote for Republicans) are the ones trashing private drug companies. It was always Republicans that argued against "govt healthcare" and wanted the "govt to keep its hands off my healthcare" and so on... yet now we have this flip where a much larger percentage of Trump-voting Republicans are against vaccines and try to dig up garbage misinformation from the likes of unverified Facebook and Twitter posts as well as whatever misinformation Joe Rogan spews in order to justify their anti-vaccine positions.

The above said, it's as simple as this.... the USA made, USA Approved, and USA regulated Pfizer/Moderna vaccines are extremely safe and effective... so much so that every country in the world wants OUR vaccines over the offerings from China, Russia, the UK, and whoever else is making one right now. What is not safe, is getting COVID, a virus engineered and mutated inside of a Chinese lab in Wuhan. I'll take the USA made Pfizer drug, $3B in fines and all, over a Chinese lab virus with unknown long term "longhaul" effects any damn day of the week. I would and I did.
well put
 

riceburner

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There's an addiction model that asserts participants get a little dopamine hit when participating in online confrontation. Just like other addictions (drugs, gambling, risk activities) it becomes harder to get that rush as time goes on.

This leads to more frequent, more radical, more confrontational interactions. Chasing the dragon.

I check into this thread every month or so, read the last two pages, sigh, and move on with my life. It seems many have done the same.

Some have not. Posting and posting and posting, trying to recapture whatever thrill they had at first.

This thread is not a conversation, discussion or even an intelligent argument. It’s a bunch of addicts trying to scratch an itch. An itch that worsens the more you scratch it.

Go find something healthy to do with your time.
go pound sand, who are you, Robert Sapolsky?
 

Escape Hatch

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You know what it is, all the things Greta and his little birch crew argued about came to a point it was disproved. How the vaccine will stop you from getting COVID to masking and the boarder, we can go on and on. The hill they fought for was proven to be worthless and now you have the joke Biden and his crew are a laughing stock. Too funny.
 

jay745

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Subliminal

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anotero

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brat_burner

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This is straight from BioNtech, the German company lol.

Our collaborations to accelerate global COVID-19 vaccine development: Pfizer and Fosun​

The collaboration with Pfizer is built on the 2018 agreement to jointly develop an mRNA-based influenza vaccine. It aimed to rapidly advance multiple COVID-19 vaccine candidates into human clinical testing based on BioNTech’s proprietary mRNA vaccine platforms, with the objective of ensuring rapid worldwide access to the vaccine. The collaboration leveraged Pfizer’s broad expertise in vaccine research and development, regulatory capabilities, and global manufacturing and distribution network. During the clinical development stage, BioNTech and its partners provided clinical supply of the vaccine from its GMP-certified mRNA manufacturing facilities in Europe. BioNTech and Pfizer worked together to scale-up manufacturing capacity at risk to provide worldwide supply in response to the pandemic. BioNTech and Pfizer are also working to jointly commercialize the vaccine worldwide (excluding China which is already covered by BioNTech’s collaboration with Fosun Pharma) upon existing regulatory approvals and other potential regulatory approvals.

As part of our strategic collaboration announced in March 2020, BioNTech and Fosun Pharma are jointly conducting clinical trials for our COVID-19 mRNA vaccine in China, leveraging BioNTech’s proprietary mRNA vaccine technology and Fosun Pharma’s clinical development and commercialization capabilities in Greater China market. Fosun Pharma will commercialize the COVID-19 vaccine in Greater China upon regulatory approval, including mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan.
 

npace

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There you go, you're misrepresenting the argument. Sure, go back and look. Clearly you're defending Trump, because what Trump did with immigrant children was 10x worse than whatever happened while Obama was President. Again, you're misrepresenting the argument as per usual. You claimed at the very least was meant to infer Obama deliberately had the Border Patrol/Immigration separate kids from their illegally immigrating parents. That was NOT true, and that's what I called you out on. You are the one that tried to change the goal posts to the fact that separation happened at all... I never said it didn't. Unfortunately, sometimes kids had to be separated from their incarcerated mother or father for short periods of time because adult holding cells were unsafe for children... so, the Border Patrol *during* the Obama admin would separate SOME of the children in large fenced-in areas, that are referred to as "cages."

I think if he goes back and reads through the entire conversation, he'll get a much better picture of the back and forth. You kept trying to claim that Obama was deliberately, personally, having kids separated... and from all that I know and read, as soon as Obama had found out about it, he demanded that it stop. So yes, a limited amount of separation did occur, and it was NOT directed by Obama, and when he found out about it, he asked that it stop. Also, kids were REUNITED with their parents when the parents were deported. Now, for the Trump Admin, Trump and his racist henchman, Steven Miller, with the assistance of his AG's Jeff Sessions deliberately, intentionally, and vexatiously separated children from their immigrant parents as a deliberate punishment for attempting to cross the border illegally. Trump did this out of racism and spite... ya know, like "all Mexican (illegal) immigrants are rapists and murderers... but I guess some of them are good people." Ya know, that racist President?

So, nice try, but that debate was a lot more technical and nuanced than what you're claiming... and you wanted me to admit that Obama deliberately had kids separated from their parents and locked up in cages, and that simply is not accurate.
Wrong. I'm not going to re-hash the entire argument, but here, you clearly implied that Obama did not build the cages or separate families because I supposedly provided no proof. Below is the conversation just before I shoved it in your face with pictures because you refused to believe the mountain of links I provided. After the below post, you changed the argument, and started talking about "well, Obama didn't want to do it, and it wasn't as many kids, and it wasn't on purpose, blah, blah, blah." Taking a page from your book, show me where Obama demanded it stop. Because yes, Trump deliberately expanded the existing policy, but he was also the one who signed an executive order to end it. Why didn't Obama sign an executive order if he demanded that it stop?

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npace

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This....
Honestly, I'd rather not.

You know how sometimes you go to the bar, you have a few drinks, then you wake up in the morning and you're ashamed at seeing what you ended up bringing home?

That's me and this thread. Got bored, decided to dip in for a bit, and now just feel dirty.

You all can keep on keepin' on!


Then less than an hour later:
Maybe. But you could spend 24 hours straight watching gay porn and not see the level of circle jerking that goes on with Team Zrick.


Interesting that you know how much of what goes on in gay porn.
 

Acadia18

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This....



Then less than an hour later:



Interesting that you know how much of what goes on in gay porn.

So what if I do? That a problem or supposed to be some kind of insult? I know racism and homophobia usually go hand in hand...
 

Escape Hatch

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So what if I do? That a problem or supposed to be some kind of insult? I know racism and homophobia usually go hand in hand...
Wait, what? Homophobia and racism go hand in hand? LOL That's rich coming from the guy talking about gay porn and circle jerks.
 
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