The COVID19 SCAMdemic... California Nears $8 Gallon Gas - Biden Sends Zelenskyyy $61 Billion

[torga]

Thanks for the info. The few times I saw reports on it. It was peaceful looking

For the most part, it really was. During the day and most nights it was basically just a hippie farmer's market, bazaar vibe. People were bringing their kids and pets and just chillin with the protestors and "occupants". The only times things boiled to bursting was when the cops got twitchy with their dispersal toys. So of course, all the media attention went there.

 

[Keehs360]

For the most part, it really was. During the day and most nights it was basically just a hippie farmer's market, bazaar vibe. People were bringing their kids and pets and just chillin with the protestors and "occupants". The only times things boiled to bursting was when the cops got twitchy with their dispersal toys. So of course, all the media attention went there.

Makes sense

 

[Strange Mud]

or at night?

 

[GTIfan99]

Yeah, you have to look at each symbol and determine what one should do with it. Was it appropriated by an extremist group?

There are often legitimate heroes and decent people on both sides of a war. Rommel is not considered a "Nazi" in Germany and has a military base named after him, while other bases were immediately renamed, this one was named post war.

I would think that 99% of the people never connected the names of US military bases to a person until it was brought up.

Sounds like you're saying some confederate generals weren't really confederates with your Rommel distinction. And I 100% guarantee you Rommel was a member of the Nazi party.

 

[mk7_bk]

Seemed like the city gave up the area temporarily while verbal negotiations were happening daily

am I wrong?

The people who run that place failed the common people at the highest level. A group who wished to be independent from the USA, stole a few blocks of city, setup blockaids, then begged for UN support and meds/ foods/ supplies. normal people did/do? Lived there. Absolute shit show, 4 shootings, several alleged rapes, pretty much the lord of flies.

 

[GTIfan99]

The people who run that place failed the common people at the highest level. A group who wished to be independent from the USA, stole a few blocks of city, setup blockaids, then begged for UN support and meds/ foods/ supplies. normal people did/do? Lived there. Absolute shit show, 4 shootings, several alleged rapes, pretty much the lord of flies.

Yes, because rape and murder doesn't happen literally everywhere.

 

[cb1111]

Sounds like you're saying some confederate generals weren't really confederates with your Rommel distinction. And I 100% guarantee you Rommel was a member of the Nazi party.

I'm going out on a limb here, but the Nazi party was just that - a political party and, like most career military, Rommel was most likely technically a part member - just like there are Democrats and republicans.

The reason I hesitate here is that one can draw a (very loose) comparison between the Nazi party and any US political party - there are extremists that, if not reigned in, tend to shape not only the direction, but also the outside opinion of that party, but the majority of the members are not the extremists.

Military members tend to be more middle of the road regardless of what party they belong to.

Every single street/base/building/whatnot (that had a Nazi party connection) was renamed in Germany, then a discussion was held about what should be renamed again or put in context. In recent years, even more that was removed was replaced and a sign added explaining what happened.

But Rommel was different - they just named a base after him (after the war) and his son was the Mayor of Stuttgart. I suspect he was a member of the party as well as he wanted to join the Waffen SS but his father talked him out of it.

FWIW, Rommel was part of the failed coup to bring down Hitler.

 

[Strange Mud]

well said^

Mitch Romney the Rommel of the Republican party. Although I intended that as joke in some ways it may not be far off (no knowledge of Rommel as history is one of those who cares things to me)

it also explains my 5 years in HS

 

[GTIfan99]

I'm going out on a limb here, but the Nazi party was just that - a political party and, like most career military, Rommel was most likely technically a part member - just like there are Democrats and republicans.

The reason I hesitate here is that one can draw a (very loose) comparison between the Nazi party and any US political party - there are extremists that, if not reigned in, tend to shape not only the direction, but also the outside opinion of that party, but the majority of the members are not the extremists.

Military members tend to be more middle of the road regardless of what party they belong to.

Every single street/base/building/whatnot (that had a Nazi party connection) was renamed in Germany, then a discussion was held about what should be renamed again or put in context. In recent years, even more that was removed was replaced and a sign added explaining what happened.

But Rommel was different - they just named a base after him (after the war) and his son was the Mayor of Stuttgart. I suspect he was a member of the party as well as he wanted to join the Waffen SS but his father talked him out of it.

FWIW, Rommel was part of the failed coup to bring down Hitler.

That's a fair point, but I'd say the comparison between the Nazi party and the GOP is a lot less loose than you'd like to admit in the strategies and means they both use to gain power.

 

[Keehs360]

The people who run that place failed the common people at the highest level. A group who wished to be independent from the USA, stole a few blocks of city, setup blockaids, then begged for UN support and meds/ foods/ supplies. normal people did/do? Lived there. Absolute shit show, 4 shootings, several alleged rapes, pretty much the lord of flies.

Crazy how all of that alleged stuff could’ve been avoided if our politicians passed the right bills and kicked out the wrong bills.

 

[Keehs360]

That's a fair point, but I'd say the comparison between the Nazi party and the GOP is a lot less loose than you'd like to admit in the strategies and means they both use to gain power.

Lies begets bullshit. That’s for sure

 

[JC_451]

All it takes for far right and far left whackos to dominate political discourse is for rational centrists to do nothing.

 

[torga]

Crazy how all of that alleged stuff could’ve been avoided if our politicians passed the right bills and kicked out the wrong bills.

Lies begets bullshit. That’s for sure

 

[torga]

All it takes for far right and far left whackos to dominate political discourse is for rational centrists to do nothing.

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

-- Martin Niemöller, a German Lutheran pastor

 

[GTIfan99]