Strongly disagree. The DSG tune changes both the D and S mode, and makes shifts much crisper in manual mode. Don't knock it before you've tried it.
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Strongly disagree. The DSG tune changes both the D and S mode, and makes shifts much crisper in manual mode. Don't knock it before you've tried it.
moksiu1977
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moksiu1977
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According to the computer I was averaging 30mpg before the tune. At the moment it shows 27mpg. However, I am definitely pushing it a bit harder since the tune. Once I get it out of my system then the mpg will be more “real world”
Nevertheless, even if it stays around 27mpg I will not complain .Hard crisp shifts do not equal good
I would rather have fast smooth shifts for the best performance
The MDCT has 3 shift hardness modes and would bang bang bang through the gears in sport plus , but the medium sport mode always yielded better results
I have driven both cars back to back
The dsg in the golf is actually quite good factory state
I would much rather spend the 600$+ on a driving clinic course and improve the piece of meat behind the wheel
To each their own
But for a user who uses the paddles manually , the dsg tune is not going to created that big of a difference
I would rather have fast smooth shifts for the best performance
The MDCT has 3 shift hardness modes and would bang bang bang through the gears in sport plus , but the medium sport mode always yielded better results
I have driven both cars back to back
The dsg in the golf is actually quite good factory state
I would much rather spend the 600$+ on a driving clinic course and improve the piece of meat behind the wheel
To each their own
But for a user who uses the paddles manually , the dsg tune is not going to created that big of a difference
moksiu1977
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Accordng to Unitronic, TSC s1 tune decreases shifting time by 50%. Based on my experience you can definitely feel the improvement in either mode. Why would one buy DSG to use paddle shifters most of the time is a topic for another post. Factory DSG is good but the tune made it even better.
Again I stated the hardness of the shift is what most perceive as being "crisp"
If it shifts harder chances are you introduce more driveline shock
50% faster shifts is a reduction in 4 milliseconds
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Yeah man worth that $600
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geokilla
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I find with the stock TCU tune, there's a delay between tapping the paddle shifters and actually having the DSG shift gears, even when in manual mode and everything in sport.
Shift points are good for daily driving imo. Probably because there's so much stop and go traffic around me. How does the TCU tune change the transmission when driving in stop and go traffic?
Shift points are good for daily driving imo. Probably because there's so much stop and go traffic around me. How does the TCU tune change the transmission when driving in stop and go traffic?
It just increases the shift points in D higher so you spend less time lugging and more time with a little boost avail on request. Generally it makes Sport less manic as well, and you can actually drive sporty with it.
moksiu1977
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I like that - Sport less manic. Before the tune, DSG would not shift unless you hit red with complete disregard for the power/torque band. Just like you’ve said, now I can actually “drive sporty” with it.
As many stated before: this is how DSG should be like right out of the factory.
moksiu1977
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Let’s also amend the Hard Crisp Shifts are not good part... very true of a automatic transmission with a torque converter. Not the same in a car with a DCT or MT... you want to slip your clutch a tad on every single shift to make the shifts smoot, be my guest, but I want that thing to be off the clutches and locked into a gear as quickly as possible when swapping cogs
Golfs everyday
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You don't need to slip the clutch to make a seamless shift. It is all in the timing when the clutch engages. And torque converters don't matter in this case as most high performance planetary AT gearboxes (correct me if im wrong as im not into AT cars) locks the torque converter besides 1st gear coming from a stop.
ChronicSPD
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How has nobody has mention the increased clamping pressure of a DSG tune? That's one of the best features! Allows more torque through the trans without slipping clutches. Also, torque converter are fluid couplers. Most NEVER fully lock up as people think. They have stall speeds where the engine and trans are close to spinning at the same speed. If it were to "lock up" at too low of speed (with much power) it would bend fins in the converter and fail. This is why they ramp up to a stall speed and why slush box transmissions are slower shifting and feel less connected. Most are also unlocked for shifts for the same reason. The torque converter helps the transmission spread the sudden shock over a small amount of time and is why they are generally used in high power applications instead of DCT. Especially if it's a heavy vehicle. Anyway, hope this helps...
Wrath And Tears
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Not all DSG tunes up the clamping power. Some are strictly for changing shift points. Your info about auto trans is about older ones. Newer ones do fully lock up and shift fast and crisp.