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Driver Gear Springs (VW Zubehör by Mubea)
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Dave10781
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Agree about the conflicting info. Does anyone know if these are sold by any U.S. vendors? Wasn't able to find them via the googles.
5G3 071 677 D manual 4 door
front 1010 kg
rear 950 kg
The only ones I was able to find were the 4D DSG springs, which would ride higher in the front on my car. If not, I guess I'll go with the VWRs.
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Ursus americanus
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Installed 5g3 071 677e on my 2dr SE PP DCC DSG on Saturday. Drops is almost perfect imo, with 235/40 tires it should be ideal. Feels great in all settings, I'm a happy bear. Pictures taken with a full tank of gas.
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Ursus americanus
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It seems that all NA GTI's are rated at 950kg in the rear regardless of trim, someone correct me if I'm wrong though. If so, why are none of the EU cars more than 890 in the rear? Are the NA rears oversprung slightly to account for fat American children? I assume EU cars have a donut and jack kit in the hatch, same size fuel tank, and offer then woofer box inside the donut, no?
My car is 1050f950r but i went with the 5g3071677e (1050f890r) to avoid any possible forward rake, hopefully preserve my rear dampers (have rsb, endlinks, ubq and xbq already installed), and maintain preticitable and fluid rotation with the aforementiomed rear end stiffening parts. Plus 95% of miles are alone or with a single passenger up front.
Currently I'm right at 26" front and rear on the left. 26.175 front and 25.825 rear on the right. If the rears settle more I may remove the donut and jack kit to keep it level.
One in the US can source the euro market springs from E-acca.com. I had good luck with them, others not so much.
My car is 1050f950r but i went with the 5g3071677e (1050f890r) to avoid any possible forward rake, hopefully preserve my rear dampers (have rsb, endlinks, ubq and xbq already installed), and maintain preticitable and fluid rotation with the aforementiomed rear end stiffening parts. Plus 95% of miles are alone or with a single passenger up front.
Currently I'm right at 26" front and rear on the left. 26.175 front and 25.825 rear on the right. If the rears settle more I may remove the donut and jack kit to keep it level.
One in the US can source the euro market springs from E-acca.com. I had good luck with them, others not so much.
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snobrdrdan
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Get the (thicker) TT rear pads for a little extra lift in the rear
Audi part number: 8J0-512-149
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=239737&postcount=37
Audi part number: 8J0-512-149
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=239737&postcount=37
Ursus americanus
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Thanks, that old mk5 trick still works huh? I'll have to see if it's the same part number as mk6 because I had bought a set and never used them for my last car. Not sure I need/want them the springs are probably not fully settled yet. I'm also waiting on spacers and then rims/tires (245/35 on 19x8.5) to get a better idea. May even consider getting the 1010 rated front springs to bring the front down a tad but I doubt it.
I'm still confused as to why EU cars are rated at 890kg vs USA 950kg. I wonder if the stock spring rates are the same on similar trimmed cars in different markets but the GAWR is different because of different regulations?
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I think this is true because if you search the USA retail# 5g4071677E on etka.cc the rear spec changes depending on region on same PN. Maybe EU has to underrate GVAR by 6% vs USA is at the spec, Europe thought process is always to add additional safety? Im confused otherwise..
On another note, about 90% sure I'm switching to e spec DG springs from VWR I put on last week [emoji17] VWR springs feel way to stiff and bouncy for the DCC damper, I think its mainly the rear springs. Basically VWR normal mode is way rougher and bouncy (like uncontrolled rebound) than stock sport mode. And I have ~13 mm of reverse rake!
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Ursus americanus
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I think so too. My best guess is that NA 5g4 071 677e (listed for 4 door 1050/950kg cars) and ROW spec 5g4 071 677e (listed for 4 door 1050/890kg) are exactly the same.
From what I can gather, for the mk7 Golf Mubea makes 3 pairs of front springs with 3 different max permissible axle loads: MUB 071 675 (930kg), MUB 071 675 A (1010kg), and MUB 071 675 B (1050kg). For vehicles with multi link rear suspension they make 2 pairs, one for 2 door cars the other for 4 doors, with identical max permissible axle loads: MUB 071 676 B (890kg 2 door) and MUB 071 676 C (890 kg 4 door). The difference being that the 676 C (4 door) is .5mm wider and 3mm shorter (untensioned) than 676 B (2 door). So the 6 different sets they sell for multi link cars should be packaged as follows:
2 doors
5G3 071 677 C = MUB 071 675 + MUB 071 676 B = 930/890
5G3 071 677 D = MUB 071 675 A + MUB 071 676 B = 1010/890
5G3 071 677 E = MUB 071 675 B + MUB 071 676 B = 1050/890
4 doors
5G4 071 677 C = MUB 071 675 + MUB 071 676 C = 930/890
5G4 071 677 D = MUB 071 675 A + MUB 071 676 C = 1010/890
5G4 071 677 E = MUB 071 675 B + MUB 071 676 C = 1050/890 ROW = 1050/950 NA
Is there anyone with the NA set 5G4 071 677 E (1050/950) who can give us the Mubea number stamped on their springs? That should solve the mystery, and if so I'll probably create a new thread with all that in the first post to consolidate and give people an easy source as to what DG springs will work with what cars.
Thanks to LeGti for starting the ground work!
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Here's the rear PN from modfydgti's pics, he bought his from US dealer..
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anjoVW
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My question is, why is there difference in the gap that I've seen between several cars with DG springs? For example, LeGti's pics show essentially how I want my car to drop, but I've seen others that look subtle compared to it. I have a 2 door TSI, so I'm wondering if it depends on which spring product number I order or something.
Ursus americanus
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First off, I included typos in my previous post of DG part numbers which I have corrected. There is no B suffix springs for multilink mk7s. Just C, D, and E, which increase in FRONT spring max permissible loads (eg stiffer). C<D<E The third character in the part numbers, 3 or 4, refers to two door (3) or four door (4).
LeGti's car is sitting like that for two reasons, three for comparison. First, he went with the D suffix springs. Which means his front springs are rated for an axle load slightly below his vehicle's actual max load, so they compress slightly more than they were made to at rest.
Second, he has increased his front caster via the superpro wishbones. So his front tires are pushed forward in the wheel well, giving the appearance of added drop.
Third, most of the other pictures I believe you are referencing are of cars on 4/E springs. They have 1050kg fronts, and slightly shorter, wider rear springs made specifically for the four door. But some people have used them for the 2 door because it is the only part number sold in North America.
So if you want positive rake like LeGti, get the DG set that contains a front spring slightly less than your max front load. What does your door jam sticker list for axle loads?
LeGti's car is sitting like that for two reasons, three for comparison. First, he went with the D suffix springs. Which means his front springs are rated for an axle load slightly below his vehicle's actual max load, so they compress slightly more than they were made to at rest.
Second, he has increased his front caster via the superpro wishbones. So his front tires are pushed forward in the wheel well, giving the appearance of added drop.
Third, most of the other pictures I believe you are referencing are of cars on 4/E springs. They have 1050kg fronts, and slightly shorter, wider rear springs made specifically for the four door. But some people have used them for the 2 door because it is the only part number sold in North America.
So if you want positive rake like LeGti, get the DG set that contains a front spring slightly less than your max front load. What does your door jam sticker list for axle loads?
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Ursus americanus
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And thank you, marcg611! So our hypothesis was correct, mystery solved!
Good job man!! Your numbers in post#69 are looking correct from what I've seen. Probably the 5g4071677D would be best for my SE PP 4dr 6mt DCC car but DAP just shipped my 5g4071677E's. These will replace my 2week old VWR's this weekend and hope I get similar result as yours.. Would be very happy with ~26" FTG all around. The question is, install the rear TT spring pads or not? I did measurements before and after VWR and both stock and VWR are ~10mm lower in rear(Neg. Rake). I have a drawtite hitch installed and std Spare and factory sub so nothing crazy, it seems correct that DCC is 5mm higher but most seem pretty level. Maybe a Mex cartel packed a few kilos in my rear quarters! Lol
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Any thoughts on TT pads from the get go with DG's? Do DG Springs lower evenly or more in front than rear to level the gap? (Ex: 20mm frt/10mm rear or 20mm frt & rear) based on my measurements Vwr lowered an even 25-27mm frt & rear
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Coming soon.. [emoji6]
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