MikeB
Passed Driver's Ed
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2016+ Clubsport Modifications - Part Numbers
- Thread starter TecklenburgVW
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Sideskirts fit, facelift R even has the same.
The splitter does require some modification.
The splitter does require some modification.
MikeB
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Anyone has done it on an r bumper?
2015WhiteGTI
Go Kart Champion
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There's simply no "complete Clubsport S bucket front racing seat".
Volkswagen doesn't offer complete seats. They're sold in dozens
of bits and you'd have to assemble them. That said, the spares
required to build one seat are about 2500 € or so.
That's one of the reasons why used Euro R/R32/Clubsport buckets
sell for so much.
That price isn't out of the ordinary for sure. BMW had their performance seats and were price similarly.
Even if you purchase a Recaro Sportster CS they base at $1499 and go up from there. Only thing is you'll have your airbag light on all the time.
https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/recaro-recaro-sportster-seats-c-9882.html
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Airbag light is the least issue. Actually it's anon-issue if you have access to
VCDS.
While we're talking about it, it's worth mentioning that the Clubsport buckets
don't come with side airbags. While I do own a Clubsport with those seats I'm
not afraid at all, since I'm convinced the bigger side bolsters provide a similar
protection against side impacts, along with the seat belt keeping me effectively
'in' the seat, thus avoiding contact with the door in that case. You don't know
for sure though, and if you do, it's little late.
VCDS.
While we're talking about it, it's worth mentioning that the Clubsport buckets
don't come with side airbags. While I do own a Clubsport with those seats I'm
not afraid at all, since I'm convinced the bigger side bolsters provide a similar
protection against side impacts, along with the seat belt keeping me effectively
'in' the seat, thus avoiding contact with the door in that case. You don't know
for sure though, and if you do, it's little late.
Another way would be to buy a used pair of Sportster CS seats from a non VAG car. As BB said, used VAG ones go for a lot of money, but I have looked at the used prices for a pair of seats from a Vauxhall/Opel Corsa VXR. They seem to go for between £600-£800 a pair, depending on if they are fabric or leather. You can get oem clark plaid for around £50 per metre, so I guess including the matching plain gray fabric you could get a pair of seats and the materials required for a retrim for £750. So a pair of Sportster CS professionally retrimmed in Clark plaid for £1250 seems possible, allowing £250 per seat for the retrim. Not sure how much work would be needed on the subframe, maybe you would need to chop up a pair of Golf seats, say £200 for a pair of standard mk7 seats. Whole lot could be done for under £1500.
steddy2112
Go Kart Newbie
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- Car(s)
- 2016 GTI SE
Ah I didn't realize they didn't come with the side air bags.
I know it's almost beating a dead horse but, is everything about the seats different than the stock seats?
I really want better seats, even if it ends up being eventually. If the base is the same between say a S/SE seat and the Clubsport seats, it's one less part to buy at least...with that being said though, with them not coming with the airbags in them, I may just end up going aftermarket that work with the stock seat base.
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The lower seat section is very similar to the stock GTI/GTD/R seats,
since it's basically a steel tubing and profile design. That's why it's
got same height adjustment and fits 1:1 into any Mk. VII Golf, while
the back is of an entirely different design very similar to real racing
buckets - say, a (reinforced) plastic shell. That being said, they do
provide a much better support, while still retaining comfort and most
adjustability (no adjustable lumbar support though, but I don't miss it).
If you ask me, these are the very best seats I've ever tried in any car.
While Recaro Pole Position buckets are (even) lighter and (even) better
supporting, they're little to narrow for me and lack most adjustability. I
think they're great on a track car, but I wouldn't want them on a daily.
Recaro Sportster CS seem to be nice alternative if you get them at a
significantly lower price than the OE Clubsport seats. I only tried them
once at a BMW dealer (who had the 'BMW Performance' line version).
since it's basically a steel tubing and profile design. That's why it's
got same height adjustment and fits 1:1 into any Mk. VII Golf, while
the back is of an entirely different design very similar to real racing
buckets - say, a (reinforced) plastic shell. That being said, they do
provide a much better support, while still retaining comfort and most
adjustability (no adjustable lumbar support though, but I don't miss it).
If you ask me, these are the very best seats I've ever tried in any car.
While Recaro Pole Position buckets are (even) lighter and (even) better
supporting, they're little to narrow for me and lack most adjustability. I
think they're great on a track car, but I wouldn't want them on a daily.
Recaro Sportster CS seem to be nice alternative if you get them at a
significantly lower price than the OE Clubsport seats. I only tried them
once at a BMW dealer (who had the 'BMW Performance' line version).
patrick44523
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BB, I'm waiting for my CSS muffler to come in. Do you think it's worth getting the downpipe that the CSS utilizes along with it to get more of those burbles and pops? Others have said that the aftermarket downpipes make the sound of the CSS muffler too obnoxious so I'm wondering if this is a good route to go instead?
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Your question is excellent, but I cannot provide a qualified answer.
We still lack a side by side comparison of both GTI/CS and CSS DPs.
I don't even have any hope we'll ever get that, since there are just
400 made of this car and we'd need one owner modding his CSS and
share pics (sadly very most people don't do this). If I had a CSS I'd
leave it 100 % stock to be honest.
That said, stock DPs are rather expensive when purchased new. If
I were you, I'd look for aftermarket stuff with a high quality metallic
cat. Someone recently even suggested to just swap the cat while
retaining the rest of the stock DP.
From experience I doubt VW is using a metallic cat on the CSS since
they also don't use one on the R, S3 and TTS.
Lastly, bear in mind that Euro DPs only come with one cat, while NA
spec means two cats if I remember right.
We still lack a side by side comparison of both GTI/CS and CSS DPs.
I don't even have any hope we'll ever get that, since there are just
400 made of this car and we'd need one owner modding his CSS and
share pics (sadly very most people don't do this). If I had a CSS I'd
leave it 100 % stock to be honest.
That said, stock DPs are rather expensive when purchased new. If
I were you, I'd look for aftermarket stuff with a high quality metallic
cat. Someone recently even suggested to just swap the cat while
retaining the rest of the stock DP.
From experience I doubt VW is using a metallic cat on the CSS since
they also don't use one on the R, S3 and TTS.
Lastly, bear in mind that Euro DPs only come with one cat, while NA
spec means two cats if I remember right.
Your question is excellent, but I cannot provide a qualified answer.
We still lack a side by side comparison of both GTI/CS and CSS DPs.
I don't even have any hope we'll ever get that, since there are just
400 made of this car and we'd need one owner modding his CSS and
share pics (sadly very most people don't do this). If I had a CSS I'd
leave it 100 % stock to be honest.
That said, stock DPs are rather expensive when purchased new. If
I were you, I'd look for aftermarket stuff with a high quality metallic
cat. Someone recently even suggested to just swap the cat while
retaining the rest of the stock DP.
From experience I doubt VW is using a metallic cat on the CSS since
they also don't use one on the R, S3 and TTS.
Lastly, bear in mind that Euro DPs only come with one cat, while NA
spec means two cats if I remember right.
Aren't the CS AND CSS using the same downpipe? The part number in the beginning of the thread indicates that.
patrick44523
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Thanks BB! However, from the part numbers pinned at the start of this thread I looked up the DP part number on CARS245 and got:
According to them it is a SEAT part number so I don't know. As far as the price it isn't to far off some of the aftermarket DP's. Although there are cheaper ones..
Depending how much more flow it has than a PP GTI maybe it's worth considering? But I'm not sure how much more flow it truly has.
Yes, it's fitted to the Seat Leon Cupra 290, But I seriously doubt if you will get any benefit from fitting this downpipe to a GTI. As BB said you would be better off looking at a quality aftermarket one. If I were to get one, I would get the HJS 90951115 (76mm) or 90951110 (70mm) they are Euro 6 spec so should be CEL free. (Or another manufacturer which uses the same HJS Euro 6 cat, AWE, Bull-X, etc)
Interestingly, both the 70mm and 76mm HJS DP's are listed as fitting CHHA/CHHB/CJSA/CJSB/CJXA/CJXB/CJXE engine types, which covers many different VAG models, including the GTI, GTI CS, Seat Leon Cupra 290 etc...Which indicates to me that they probably all have the same stock DP's, just the part numbers are different.
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Clubsport is CJXE engine code (Euro versions at least; Replicate, if you hear me, how
about downunder?), while Clubsport S is CJXG engine code, same as TTS (310 PS).
Milltek DPs with HJS cat are certainly better in regard to flow. HJS even do an own DP,
which comes with ECE approval (which mandatory when used in most Euro countries).
I really like the heatshielding it's coming with.
I couldn't rule out some risk of drone when running a big bore DP along with CSS muffler,
but I'd still prefer a metallic cat DP over any stock one since they're both similar money.
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Matt's been quicker
about downunder?), while Clubsport S is CJXG engine code, same as TTS (310 PS).
Milltek DPs with HJS cat are certainly better in regard to flow. HJS even do an own DP,
which comes with ECE approval (which mandatory when used in most Euro countries).
I really like the heatshielding it's coming with.
I couldn't rule out some risk of drone when running a big bore DP along with CSS muffler,
but I'd still prefer a metallic cat DP over any stock one since they're both similar money.
edit
Matt's been quicker