Official DIY TTRS Clutch Kit

[BlueHen]

God I feel for you Canadians. My wife is from Quebec and when I hear the prices of almost any consumer product I cringe. It's like a 20% markup on everything.

At least they don't have to wait 5 hours in the Emergency Room to get stitches in their hand after suffering a two inch cut.

True story.

"Here, sir. Take this box of gauze and apply pressure to your hand and we'll get you in as soon as possible." Later that evening... "Ooh, that's pretty bad. We'll fix you right up."

 

[2slowvw]

At least they don't have to wait 5 hours in the Emergency Room to get stitches in their hand after suffering a two inch cut.

True story.

"Here, sir. Take this box of gauze and apply pressure to your hand and we'll get you in as soon as possible." Later that evening... "Ooh, that's pretty bad. We'll fix you right up."

Must be your hospital. All the hospitals here I can get in and out of the Emergency room relatively quickly. A common misconception that I learned about Canada is that yes there is free universal health care, but emergency rooms and hospitals take a long time to get seen. If you need to see a specialist for anything, it can take forever. So while yes the healthcare is free, my wife prefers the hospitals and efficiency of US hospitals over the ones she went to in Canada.

 

[BlueHen]

Must be your hospital. All the hospitals here I can get in and out of the Emergency room relatively quickly. A common misconception that I learned about Canada is that yes there is free universal health care, but emergency rooms and hospitals take a long time to get seen. If you need to see a specialist for anything, it can take forever. So while yes the healthcare is free, my wife prefers the hospitals and efficiency of US hospitals over the ones she went to in Canada.

Our hospitals where I live are notoriously bad.

Here's an example, from same hospital where they left me to bleed out for 5 hours:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=3935535

A Delaware man has filed suit against doctors, claiming a horrific surgical mix-up left him urinating feces and discharging urine from his bowels...

 

[BxGTI]

There is a reason why medical walk in centers are popping up all over the place, normal wait in NYC can be brutal for non life-threatening medical emergencies 4-5 hours is common


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[Boomer719]

OK.....so I just had this DIY clutch assembly installed with a new DMFW and AWE downpipe. Total price OTD (not counting the downpipe which I bought a few weeks ago) was $1300 with all new "torque to spec" bolts as needed. Since I have a Eurodyne tune I went ahead and reflashed to the Stage 2 93 octane file before leaving the shop.

Initial impression of just operating the clutch without driving it is that it does feel a little stiffer but really to me it's more of a pronounced release than the stock clutch. Really a non-issue unless you're a complete candy ass. The one thing that surprised me was how close to the floor the engagement had moved from stock. First time it caught me by surprise but after a few trips through the gears it was easy to get used to. If anything, the clutch engagement is shorter and more defined than stock and consequently easier to manage. It is true that after a few days of driving that it moves a little higher and now is about where the stock clutch released.

No more slipping and the clutch engagement point is as close to stock where I can't even tell a difference. My wife, who did not know about the changes, drove the car and only commented on the slightly louder exhaust when vigorously accelerating. She picked up on the downpipe but did not comment on the clutch....for whatever that is worth.

All in all....very please and love the savings over buying the prepackaged kit.

 

[mr_blasto]

Just to confirm - as it sits, are all the part numbers correct as of today?
Any Canadians want to give any input as to where they sourced parts? Thanks!

As I recall, the TOB specified here is from the mk6, and many people claim it'll be totally fine to use on the mk7, and they may be correct. However, I had a reputable shop do the install and they were saying that the parts are slightly different and the MK7 TOB ends up giving you a little extra throw, which is probably why people use the clutch stops in the stock setup (to get rid of the extra pedal travel). As we searched around the forums, one of the companies that sells what looks to be "a very similar" kit sent an MK7 customer a MK6 TOB and that user was having some issues. The company apologized for sending the "wrong" part and immediately sent him an MK7 TOB.

Based on that story, and not wanting to have to do the install twice, we erred on the side of caution and used an MK7 TOB instead of the MK6 specified here. Would the MK6 part work fine? Probably, but I didn't want to find out. 150 miles later, I have no complaints. I'll update this if anything changes.

 

[2slowvw]

As I recall, the TOB specified here is from the mk6, and many people claim it'll be totally fine to use on the mk7, and they may be correct. However, I had a reputable shop do the install and they were saying that the parts are slightly different and the MK7 TOB ends up giving you a little extra throw, which is probably why people use the clutch stops in the stock setup (to get rid of the extra pedal travel). As we searched around the forums, one of the companies that sells what looks to be "a very similar" kit sent an MK7 customer a MK6 TOB and that user was having some issues. The company apologized for sending the "wrong" part and immediately sent him an MK7 TOB.

Based on that story, and not wanting to have to do the install twice, we erred on the side of caution and used an MK7 TOB instead of the MK6 specified here. Would the MK6 part work fine? Probably, but I didn't want to find out. 150 miles later, I have no complaints. I'll update this if anything changes.

I have the cheaper rock auto mk6 TOB park LSC320 . Saved a good amount of money and no complaints after a few thousand miles. To each their own though.

 

[vw4evr]

As I recall, the TOB specified here is from the mk6, and many people claim it'll be totally fine to use on the mk7, and they may be correct. However, I had a reputable shop do the install and they were saying that the parts are slightly different and the MK7 TOB ends up giving you a little extra throw, which is probably why people use the clutch stops in the stock setup (to get rid of the extra pedal travel). As we searched around the forums, one of the companies that sells what looks to be "a very similar" kit sent an MK7 customer a MK6 TOB and that user was having some issues. The company apologized for sending the "wrong" part and immediately sent him an MK7 TOB.



Based on that story, and not wanting to have to do the install twice, we erred on the side of caution and used an MK7 TOB instead of the MK6 specified here. Would the MK6 part work fine? Probably, but I didn't want to find out. 150 miles later, I have no complaints. I'll update this if anything changes.

I was sent a MK6 TOB with a stage 3 BFI, I switched it to the MK7 on advice from both the tech installing it and BFI saying the MK6 should not be used.



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[Boomer719]

I used the TOB listed and ordered from ECS Tuning. Fitment and operation are perfect.

Mfg Part #0A5141671N
ECS Part #ES#2988678

Their website lists that it is for a the Mk7 2.0T Gen3 so not sure where the confusion is regarding this part number.

Make Model Submodel Engine
Volkswagen Golf VII GTI 2.0T Gen3
Volkswagen Golf VII R GTI 2.0T Gen3

 

[Theryatch]

Ok, first off this thread is amazing! Thank you to everyone for the input. I ordered all of the parts (that friction disk is a pain to find right now) and plan on installing here in a few weekends. But there are a few outstanding questions and concerns I have after reading all 24 glorious pages here.

1) Torque specs on tty bolts and other "critical" bolts (ie pressure plate, hubflange, etc...)
- Are they the same as the mk6 as called out in this post? (http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73022)

2) Transmission fluid.
- Sounds like a little may leak when removing/installing. Should I drain first and then refill with the drained fluid after? (Slightly less weight in transmission removal and I'm not risking the actual liquid gold (sorry velveta) that is this g o52 527 a2 fluid leaking onto the ground). If I leave the fluid in in how much can I expect to leak?

3) PP and VAQ.
-Any special tricks or tips for the install when dealing with the diff?

4) Downpipe time? Other upgrade time?
- Seeing as how it needs to be removed I am debating whether or not I should spend the money I saved on the install by treating the ol' girl to a nice Neuspeed dp. Could go either way, just hoping for a nudge based on difficulty in getting the stock out as I plan on getting one eventually anyway. Anything else that may be good to do now that I am doing all of this work?

5) Clutch alignment tool.
- Do I really need the T10097 vw centering tool or will the sachs tool work? I can't find a T10097 for under 40 bucks not on backorder and not sure if I should wait or choke on what little pride I have left and just have another 40 dollar one use tool sitting in my garage.

Thanks in advance and sorry if I have asked anything here that had already been mentioned in the tome that is this thread

 

[jrm]

I do not know how they do but it seem like
you not need to dismantle the diff from transmission
seems like they pick the whole package.
(This is a Cupra same engine as Golf R)
https://www.seat-online.nl/showthread.php?23037-SEAT-Leon-5F-Leon-Cupra-koppeling-vervangen

 

[wy2sl0]

As I recall, the TOB specified here is from the mk6, and many people claim it'll be totally fine to use on the mk7, and they may be correct. However, I had a reputable shop do the install and they were saying that the parts are slightly different and the MK7 TOB ends up giving you a little extra throw, which is probably why people use the clutch stops in the stock setup (to get rid of the extra pedal travel). As we searched around the forums, one of the companies that sells what looks to be "a very similar" kit sent an MK7 customer a MK6 TOB and that user was having some issues. The company apologized for sending the "wrong" part and immediately sent him an MK7 TOB.

Based on that story, and not wanting to have to do the install twice, we erred on the side of caution and used an MK7 TOB instead of the MK6 specified here. Would the MK6 part work fine? Probably, but I didn't want to find out. 150 miles later, I have no complaints. I'll update this if anything changes.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

 

[Theryatch]

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

When I built my kit James from four seasons informed me that there was a new version of the mk7 tob and it was rubber where it presses on the pp fingers (part number 0A5141671N). I ended up going with that one for what it's worth.

 

[2slowvw]

When I built my kit James from four seasons informed me that there was a new version of the mk7 tob and it was rubber where it presses on the pp fingers (part number 0A5141671N). I ended up going with that one for what it's worth.

Meh, maybe it makes a little less noise. I would perhaps argue that the metal would last longer than the rubber, but i think either way the TOB will last the life of the clutch.

 

[Theryatch]

Meh, maybe it makes a little less noise. I would perhaps argue that the metal would last longer than the rubber, but i think either way the TOB will last the life of the clutch.

Agreed​. I debated even getting a new tob at all as I'm only at 10k but decided it would probably be a good idea. With that said I had to go with the latest and greatest...