Mild drop: Neuspeed Sport or VWR springs?

[lowNslo]

Tried searching, lots of VWR vs H&R but not Neuspeed. Looking for any info on both setups, pics etc. Price isn't an issue.. Better ride quality is. Had Koni coils in my 08 GTI, totally regretted it. I appreciate any input! Safe travels!

 

[Hulk1]

Tried searching, lots of VWR vs H&R but not Neuspeed. Looking for any info on both setups, pics etc. Price isn't an issue.. Better ride quality is. Had Koni coils in my 08 GTI, totally regretted it. I appreciate any input! Safe travels!

VWR seems to be the top pick. The springs are made specifically for the car in mind and to suit the stock dampeners. Those just arrived today for me

Happy hunting!

 

[Hammersticks]

I have the Neuspeed sports with Koni FSDs. I like the setup a lot. The drop is about 1.25" all the way around. Here it is with the TT pads in the rear (which make the rear drop 1" to eliminate any reverse rake).

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[kevan.carbaugh]

Looks great!

 

[1Krautburner]

I just bought Emmanuelle Design springs, which should have better ride quality than VWR with about the same drop. I'll post feedback when I get them installed.

 

[lowNslo]

Tks for all the reply's! Must say I do like the slight "rake" look. But definitely not reverse rake. Is this common with Neuspeed?

 

[Hammersticks]

Tks for all the reply's! Must say I do like the slight "rake" look. But definitely not reverse rake. Is this common with Neuspeed?

Nobody likes reverse rake. . It happens with pretty much all springs on these cars. The fender heights will be even or even slightly higher in the rear but appears lower due to the wheel well sizing. Super easy fix with the TT pads though. They run about $35 and fit perfectly.

If you are concerned about ride quality I would recommend stepping up and getting aftermarket dampers with either Neuspeed or VWR due to the higher spring rates, or if staying with stock dampers going with ED or DG springs.


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[herfalerf]

I would go vwr as they are linear rate springs and better matched to the stock dampers than anything with a progressive rate. My understanding is that vwr and Emmanuel designs springs are identical. I believe both are made by eibach.


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[breaking badly]

Mild drop
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Price isn't an issue.. Better ride quality is.

"Mild" drop + "ride quality" means "DG springs":


http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11235
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7982


Take manufacturer claims such as "developed to match stock dampers"
(as known from VWR/Racingline or others) with a grain of salt. They may
have been developed with the stock dampers in mind, but that does not
mean they're perfect match for them. Being perfect match does require
both appropriate spring rates and travel. Spring rates may still be in an
acceptable range, but travel definitely isn't. With VWR springs you will
feel a need for uprated dampers sooner or later.
There are so many people on the Mk.VI GTI forums, who've been happy
with VWRs + stock dampers in the beginning, while two or three years
later they realized it's far from being ideal, feeling underdamped or even
crashy.

I know, some people won't appreciate to read this, but I prefer to be
honest.

DG springs still match the stock dampers best, since they're closest
to stock springs both in spring rates and remaining wheel travel. If you
prefer more drop, you should really really seriously consider uprated
dampers (Bilstein B8, Koni Orange etc., but not Koni FSD).

 

[Hulk1]

"Mild" drop + "ride quality" means "DG springs":


http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11235
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7982


Take manufacturer claims such as "developed to match stock dampers"
(as known from VWR/Racingline or others) with a grain of salt. They may
have been developed with the stock dampers in mind, but that does not
mean they're perfect match for them. Being perfect match does require
both appropriate spring rates and travel. Spring rates may still be in an
acceptable range, but travel definitely isn't. With VWR springs you will
feel a need for uprated dampers sooner or later.
There are so many people on the Mk.VI GTI forums, who've been happy
with VWRs + stock dampers in the beginning, while two or three years
later they realized it's far from being ideal, feeling underdamped or even
crashy.

I know, some people won't appreciate to read this, but I prefer to be
honest.

DG springs still match the stock dampers best, since they're closest
to stock springs both in spring rates and remaining wheel travel. If you
prefer more drop, you should really really seriously consider uprated
dampers (Bilstein B8, Koni Orange etc., but not Koni FSD).

That's fair, but the way I understand it, if you're just buying aftermarket springs you can't expect a "perfect match" anyway. MY guess is this person, like many of us, isn't in the market for coilovers right away.

To the OP, most of the choices ppl mentioned should be fine but I'd feel confident in VWR given the popularity and that they're made with this car in mind.

 

[ryohei47]

My understanding is that vwr and Emmanuel designs springs are identical. I believe both are made by eibach.


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Hmm I've never heard that before, was this mentioned by the company? It definitely would make my decision between the two easier knowing that they're the same

 

[bluekid99]

Tried searching, lots of VWR vs H&R but not Neuspeed. Looking for any info on both setups, pics etc. Price isn't an issue.. Better ride quality is. Had Koni coils in my 08 GTI, totally regretted it. I appreciate any input! Safe travels!

i have vwr on mine and i love how it looks plus ride quality as same as stock...would never know it was lowered by riding in it

 

[Hammersticks]

"Mild" drop + "ride quality" means "DG springs":
If you prefer more drop, you should really really seriously consider uprated
dampers (Bilstein B8, Koni Orange etc., but not Koni FSD).

Breaking - completely agree with you on 99% of your post, but curious about your FSD comment. Have you had FSDs long-term with a lowering spring that is still within Koni's suggested range limit (1.5")? This is not a rhetorical question. Legitimately interested. I wouldn't say my setup is perfect in every way, but it does pretty darn well in 95% of the driving I do. There were also a lot of positive reviews from MKVI owners as well.

Having said all of this I am expecting a set of DG E springs in the mail today to increase ground clearance. If they don't pair well with the FSDs I will put the neuspeeds back on. The neuspeeds aren't THAT low, but my wife is driving the car more these days, so...

Anyway, thanks for your input.




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[gti330ex]

"Mild" drop + "ride quality" means "DG springs":


http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11235
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7982


Take manufacturer claims such as "developed to match stock dampers"
(as known from VWR/Racingline or others) with a grain of salt. They may
have been developed with the stock dampers in mind, but that does not
mean they're perfect match for them. Being perfect match does require
both appropriate spring rates and travel. Spring rates may still be in an
acceptable range, but travel definitely isn't. With VWR springs you will
feel a need for uprated dampers sooner or later.
There are so many people on the Mk.VI GTI forums, who've been happy
with VWRs + stock dampers in the beginning, while two or three years
later they realized it's far from being ideal, feeling underdamped or even
crashy.

I know, some people won't appreciate to read this, but I prefer to be
honest.

DG springs still match the stock dampers best, since they're closest
to stock springs both in spring rates and remaining wheel travel. If you
prefer more drop, you should really really seriously consider uprated
dampers (Bilstein B8, Koni Orange etc., but not Koni FSD).

^This

VWR springs and Mild drop don't go in the same sentence.

 

[VWDJ67]

Vw racing all the way I love mine

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