I'd agree with that, but that's my original point, is that vw's stick, besides being inferior at a technological level to the dsg, also just plain sucks compared to other manuals offered by competitors. They (vw) don't seem to care about actually upgrading and improving a manual transmission, they just give you the option of a manual, which is a lousy manual transmission also.
Now add the fact that vw obviously doesn't believe that people who buy their manual can actually drive it, I mean really drive it, thus all the stupid mods to both software and hard parts, you the consumer has to modify to actually make the most out of it, performance wise. I'm sure it makes it easier/smoother to drive normal but it is at the sacrifice of performance, which makes no sense to me on their, top dog performance vehicle and why when/if people actually understand this before purchase, why they would even bother with it.
I agree, vw seems to have designed it with dsg in mind, the manual is an afterthought and obviously not a lot of vw's $$$ goes toward the manual versions, it obvious. Why the end consumer would know all this and still buy it boggles my mind. Someone who has learned this after buying it, I understand and feel for and recommend eating the depreciation and trading in on dsg R instead of modding the manual version, cause it'll still suck, it just sucks less than the oem setup.
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