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Old 08-16-2019, 09:37 PM   #1
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Rear differential as a jack point

Just curious for you R/Alltrack/GSW 4Motion owners -

Can I use the rear differential as a jack point? I've always used the differential as a jack point on every other car I've owned. I noticed on the Project Alltrack video, DAP says they use the rear differential as a jack point.

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Old 08-16-2019, 09:45 PM   #2
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Just curious for you R/Alltrack/GSW 4Motion owners -

Can I use the rear differential as a jack point? I've always used the differential as a jack point on every other car I've owned. I noticed on the Project Alltrack video, DAP says they use the rear differential as a jack point.

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Itís cast aluminum.

So, no. I would never use the rear differential on any VW or Audi as a jack point.

Of all the terrible advice coming out of DAP, this is definitely top 5
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:49 PM   #3
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Itís cast aluminum.

So, no. I would never use the rear differential on any VW or Audi as a jack point.

Of all the terrible advice coming out of DAP, this is definitely top 5
Well, that's good to know (and slightly depressing). Any other spot I could use to lift the entire rear end up at once?

Also, what is the other terrible advice from DAP? Their video on lifting their GTI looked pretty sketchy to me to be honest.
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Old 08-16-2019, 10:20 PM   #4
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This practice is left over from the RWD-solid rear axle days. I would definitely say "no" on any car with IRS.
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Old 08-16-2019, 10:29 PM   #5
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Well, that's good to know (and slightly depressing). Any other spot I could use to lift the entire rear end up at once?

Also, what is the other terrible advice from DAP? Their video on lifting their GTI looked pretty sketchy to me to be honest.
I donít watch any of their stuff, but I do spend an outrageous amount of time helping people avoid & or correct mistakes theyíd make from said videos.

Most common are suspension related (DAP loves impacts, and thatís how you end up with suspension noise and ruined mounts).

I donít wanna start a whole bash thread, weíll just leave it at that.
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Old 08-16-2019, 10:32 PM   #6
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This practice is left over from the RWD-solid rear axle days. I would definitely say "no" on any car with IRS.
It's an official jack point on Miatas, and I've jacked my Miata and Subaru up by the rear differential and have never had an issue.
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:58 AM   #7
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I donít watch any of their stuff, but I do spend an outrageous amount of time helping people avoid & or correct mistakes theyíd make from said videos.

Most common are suspension related (DAP loves impacts, and thatís how you end up with suspension noise and ruined mounts).

I donít wanna start a whole bash thread, weíll just leave it at that.
No worries, I'm just struggling to find a good way to lift this car onto jackstands.
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:49 AM   #8
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I donít watch any of their stuff, but I do spend an outrageous amount of time helping people avoid & or correct mistakes theyíd make from said videos.



Most common are suspension related (DAP loves impacts, and thatís how you end up with suspension noise and ruined mounts).



I donít wanna start a whole bash thread, weíll just leave it at that.
Start a thread about their bad advice. I've used their videos in the past, curious about what to avoid.
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:26 PM   #9
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It's an official jack point on Miatas, and I've jacked my Miata and Subaru up by the rear differential and have never had an issue.
Same here, I use(d) it on my Forester XT, Miatas, 240SXs, G35, and now I use it on my GSW 4mo.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:20 PM   #10
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With the correct jack pad, it could be okay. I definitely wouldn't use the standard metal cup on the rear diff.

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Old 08-17-2019, 04:22 PM   #11
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Isn't the RSB in the way?
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Old 08-17-2019, 06:26 PM   #12
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Isn't the RSB in the way?
If you have a long reach jack you could put it in front of the RSB, especially with a hockey puck on the jack.

The fact that there's no center jack points on these cars is pretty weird.
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Old 08-17-2019, 06:59 PM   #13
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I just rage bought the Audi jack pad kit. I guess that solves my problem.
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Old 08-17-2019, 10:16 PM   #14
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If you have a long reach jack you could put it in front of the RSB, especially with a hockey puck on the jack.
This is what I do, HF ultra low profile long reach jack with a polyurethane "hockey puck" pad under the diff.
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Old 08-17-2019, 10:45 PM   #15
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Start a thread about their bad advice. I've used their videos in the past, curious about what to avoid.
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Old 08-18-2019, 12:19 AM   #16
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Just saw a post where somebody had that new safe jack renn shit. Looks good, except $300 shipped for two jack stands, when I have a pile of like 8 of the cheap ones already makes me sad inside.

I used to jack up my mustang from the diff. Aluminum case and IRS, didn't hurt it at all. It's not like these cars are unobtanium, just have the part number ready for the cover and gasket if you fuck it up?
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:51 PM   #17
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I don't think its recommended so personally i wouldn't risk it. I'm jealous of my friend with a WRX who has jack points at the front/rear of the car which looks way easier.

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I just rage bought the Audi jack pad kit. I guess that solves my problem.
It's not too expensive especially if you order from E-Acca. I've had it in my car just not sold on it yet lol. For others these are the part numbers i have written down, double check before you order it.

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~59usd = 77cad (plus shipping)
(1x) - 8V0825271 - Outer Trim Left Side
(1x) - 8V0825272 - Outer Trim Right Side
(2x) - 8V0804631B - Rubber Bungs
(1x) - 8V0802845 - Jack Socket Left Side
(1x) - 8V0802846 - Jack Socket Right Side
(2x) - 8V0802847A - Audi Wedge Pads Rear
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