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Old 10-19-2017, 12:53 AM   #1
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034 Negative Camber Strut Mounts

Rumor mill alert: I had heard about the possible development on vortex and confirmed with 034 that they are currently developing fixed position negative camber strut mounts. They are currently being tested on their shop MK7, S3, and MK3 TT RS cars.

Apparently they are supposed to provide around 2 degrees of negative camber but I guess we will see what comes out of testing.

The release date is TBD. Now let's just hope they aren't $$$$.


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Old 10-19-2017, 01:01 AM   #2
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:37 AM   #3
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that would be good.
Dinan made this type of thing for BMWs, basically added around -0.7. It also added 1/8 to a 1/4 ride height. Their design worked with the oem mount. People claimed minimal added nvh.

Would think 034 would have to design a new mount top to bottom.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:59 AM   #4
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The MQB platform needs front camber adjustment outside of moving to camber plates. I have been hoping to see SuperPro release adjustable ball joints for the MK7 like on the MK6.

Fingers crossed there is a good option coming!
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that would be good.
Dinan made this type of thing for BMWs, basically added around -0.7. It also added 1/8 to a 1/4 ride height. Their design worked with the oem mount. People claimed minimal added nvh.

Would think 034 would have to design a new mount top to bottom.

I would welcome another 1/8 to 1/4" ride height in the front.

And yes I can't imagine it not being a complete redesign.


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yeah the dome for the oem mount would be hard to carry over.

springs are also a limiting factor on how much change can be provided. For my GSW with adjustable plates, I can't quite add -1.5 on one side due to spring rub on the tower.
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you can see how close it gets even with coil over springs, here:
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?p=524952
I think my stock springs may have larger od.
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Old 10-19-2017, 03:29 AM   #7
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The MQB platform needs front camber adjustment outside of moving to camber plates. I have been hoping to see SuperPro release adjustable ball joints for the MK7 like on the MK6.

Fingers crossed there is a good option coming!
Acccording to the following response, it's not going to happen:

"Sorry, no adjustable ball joint in the works for the MK7 any longer as the packaging limits the ability to offer adjustment and proper geometry thereafter.

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CSS swivels will provide additional (fixed) negative camber.
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Old 10-20-2017, 03:31 PM   #11
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for $250 or less, they should sell well.

regarding adjustable plates, mine are quite tolerable though I'm riding on 15s and keeping the front suspension soft. The increased steering feel and response is a plus. might push others over the nvh cliff with 18s and aggressive setup elsewhere.

it will be interesting to see 034's approach especially if they're adding more than -1.0
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Any issue with the top of new mount being metal and mounting up to a painted metal frame member? I know if installed right should not move but wondering about over time if it will develop issues.

With more camber is this more a track set up or daily driver usable?
On older tires I see inside edge wear now up front and with more camber would this increase.

Are these the units you have been developing for over a year now? I talked to 034 a good while ago and they had started to test a new mount. Any issue with noise?

This unit does not use the OE bearing? Looks like OE bearing sits in same spot between it and shock.
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Any issue with the top of new mount being metal and mounting up to a painted metal frame member? I know if installed right should not move but wondering about over time if it will develop issues.

With more camber is this more a track set up or daily driver usable?
On older tires I see inside edge wear now up front and with more camber would this increase.

Are these the units you have been developing for over a year now? I talked to 034 a good while ago and they had started to test a new mount. Any issue with noise?

This unit does not use the OE bearing? Looks like OE bearing sits in same spot between it and shock.
The Dynamic+ Camber Mounts have a clear anodized finish, and it will not cause any issues mounting to the factory strut tower.

The additional camber is perfect for street use as well. My GTI sees many more commuting miles than track miles - it almost always gets driven to shows/events with equipment/products in the back - and there isn't a significant impact on tire wear with about -2.6 of camber up front. In general, more camber will increase inside tire wear, but the rate at which that happens depends on overall alignment (toe settings can have a major impact) and driving style. For example, without these mounts, these cars often see extremely excessive outside tire wear up front when pushed on track.

Yes, they've been in development/testing for quite some time now. I've had them on my GTI for almost 6 month now, and other 034Motorsport vehicles have had them on longer than that. There is a very minimal impact on noise, vibration, and harshness transfer into the cabin, especially when compared to spherical camber plates. If you have springs that are prone to binding, or very noisy tires, then those sounds may be amplified. On my GTI, I'm currently running these with our Dynamic+ Lowering Springs, and I honestly don't notice any additional noise with either of the wheel/tire setups I run.

Yes, these use the factory strut mount bearing, and have the necessary locating groove on them for ease of installation.

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