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You can't use photobucket to host pictures anymore, btw, so your pics didn't show up
figured it our here they are, these are the same as GTI springs used ED rear spacers as well
You can't use photobucket to host pictures anymore, btw, so your pics didn't show up
Just added DG springs to my '17 Golf SE 1.8TSI. I also added the GTI PP swaybar while I was at it. I have never dropped one of my cars before, but the stock gap on the golfs is just a little too much. Pleased with the ride so far. Seems much more solid around the turns. Maybe a little harsher overall. Here is a shot...
Looks sweet!
Paolo, to my understanding, too high spring rates aren't the main here. I'm certain
they're below the numbers you mentioned. The main issue is travel along with too
soft spring rates and too soft damping. There's not much positive travel left and it
gets even less when the springs settle. As a result the dampers hit the bump stops
way too often. Remember bump stops use to be 10 to 20 times the spring rate of
the main (coil) springs. Inevitably, the car feels bumpy or 'stiff'.
So I switched from ED to DG springs this past weekend. The ride is more comfortable, quite a bit less stiff. I haven't gone for a spirited drive yet, so I can't really say how much body roll is back, but it feels less than stock, but more than with ED's. Also, the annoying rattle I had from the ED's, paired with 034's strut mounts, is gone now that my suspension is basically back to OEM.
Overall, I'd say I'm pleased. Which is good because my back hurts after changing out the fronts...
The picture of the springs is a comparison of the rears. I forgot to take one of the fronts.
First pic is ED, second is DG. The last one is when I just had the DG rears on with ED fronts. Honestly, I kind of like the positive rake look on GTIs!
When you guys talk about VWR vs DG because of comfort, how stiff are we talking about here? Couldn't find rates on the VWR springs, but the coilovers I had for my Accord had 8k front and 10k rear spring rates with adjustable dampers. THOSE were stiff, but I didn't mind it. Are VWR, Neuspeed, H&R Sport, and ED really that bad?
To me, the ED springs were much stiffer than the DG springs. It's a subjective observation, but I would say ED were 50% stiffer than stock and DG springs are 10-15% stiffer than stock. I would have lived with the ED springs if they (combined with new strut bearings/mounts) hadn't squeaked so much. But they are significantly (to me) stiffer than stock.
So I switched from ED to DG springs this past weekend. The ride is more comfortable, quite a bit less stiff. I haven't gone for a spirited drive yet, so I can't really say how much body roll is back, but it feels less than stock, but more than with ED's. Also, the annoying rattle I had from the ED's, paired with 034's strut mounts, is gone now that my suspension is basically back to OEM.
Overall, I'd say I'm pleased. Which is good because my back hurts after changing out the fronts...
The picture of the springs is a comparison of the rears. I forgot to take one of the fronts.
First pic is ED, second is DG. The last one is when I just had the DG rears on with ED fronts. Honestly, I kind of like the positive rake look on GTIs!
Finally got my DG springs installed on my GTI Sport. Thought I'd add my pics to the repository of DG spring knowledge.
Overall I'm pleased. Would loved to have gone with a VWR drop but this is the best compromise for looks and for practicality/current needs. Went from about a 3 1/2 finger gap to about 2 fingers. It rides and feels exactly the same as the stock springs-- no exaggeration. If you can tell the difference you have some ultra sensory abilities. To reiterate a common opinion-- this is how a GTI should be stock.
I also have the ECS flush kit installed. I'm not sure if I'm totally on board with the poke of the 15mm/20mm spacers. Might want to go 10mm/15mm.