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Old 07-16-2019, 01:42 PM   #290
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I'm rooting for Merc, but I'm very curious to see what happens after the summer break in Spa and Monza. Ferrari might take both races.

Fezza have the straight line advantage, so what upgrades will Merc bring by then.

They had the straight line advantage last year too, and it was what a couple dozen points between them and Merc going into summer break?

Yeah Ferrari won Spa, that was no surprise really. But almost the entire calendar otherwise was silver domination.


The gap going into the break is a bit more........pronounced this year lol. Merc leads Ferrari by almost all of Red Bull's points hahahaha.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:54 PM   #291
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The thing is "straight line advantage" just means they are running less downforce, (the PUs are on par, give or take) and there is a reason for that, most likely their downforce package for that track wasnt as efficient as the others (eg. Mercedes). With a less efficient package, they cant afford to run as much aero, they would be "draggy" on the straights requiring more fuel, etc, while the downforce they put for the corners isnt as good as the others... so you run less df, use less fuel, and you get the benefit of higher straight line for challenging for the pass... but bringing in less dowfnroce than optimal means you already lost, this is why since 2014, the mercedes dont usually have the highest trap speeds, but always the fastest cornering speeds.....
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:35 PM   #292
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The gap going into the break is a bit more........pronounced this year lol. Merc leads Ferrari by almost all of Red Bull's points hahahaha.
A lot of that "gap" is self-inflicted. Same as last year. And the years prior.
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Old 07-18-2019, 02:38 PM   #293
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Even worse.....

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...nter-mercedes/

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New engine after summer break

"We have unleashed the potential of the car," Horner is happy about the good last two races. "We're now well positioned in fast and slow corners." Even Silverstone is no longer a fearful circuit for Red Bull. On 4,595 of the 5,891 metres the drivers are fully on the gas. That's where the engine comes in.

In qualifying, Red Bull Honda with its party mode has not the punch of the competition. But in the race, the Austro-Japanese connection is able to drive at high power on a permanent basis. In addition, the RB15 handles the tyres gently. Red Bull has therefore overtaken Ferrari in race trim.

"Our Quali-Pace is better than our speed in the race", Ferraris Charles Leclerc notes. "We have to work on that. Red Bull is better than us over the distance and keeps the tyres alive better". Even Ferrari team boss Mattia Binotto has to admit. "After qualifying we had calculated more. Our race space wasn't good enough, but Red Bull is celebrating. "It was incredible how we could follow the Ferrari through Maggots, Becketts, Chapel. That's the highspeed meander at the back of the track. "Unfortunately, we were rarely able to show our true speed. We were behind a Ferrari for 99 percent of the race," says Horner. Red Bull is already fastest in another discipline. At Silverstone they changed tyres in 1.91 seconds. And the development steps at engine partner Honda also come quickly. It is said that the next expansion stage is already finished. It should bring about 25 HP, and Red Bull Honda thereby on the level of Mercedes lift. But the title favourite will add to the list itself. The revised Honda engine will be used after the summer break. Either in Spa or in Monza. "That depends on whether Honda brings further development this year. We also have to budget for our engine parts because of the impending penalties," explains Red Bull's Sports Director Marko.
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Old 07-18-2019, 04:55 PM   #294
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That's exciting! Max with that car will cause havoc!
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Old 07-27-2019, 02:54 PM   #295
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Oof. After looking to be the class of the field in practice, both Ferraris exit qualifying early. Vettel with no time; Leclerc with a turbo issue at start of Q3.

Also, the noses of the Mercedes are white this week? I missed the story on that. Is it for the home GP?
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:10 PM   #296
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Oof. After looking to be the class of the field in practice, both Ferraris exit qualifying early. Vettel with no time; Leclerc with a turbo issue at start of Q3.

Also, the noses of the Mercedes are white this week? I missed the story on that. Is it for the home GP?
White nose to grey gradient is to celebrate 125 years of Merc motor racing. Legend has it, they scraped the white paint off to save weight hence Silver Arrows.
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Old 07-27-2019, 05:53 PM   #297
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White nose to grey gradient is to celebrate 125 years of Merc motor racing. Legend has it, they scraped the white paint off to save weight hence Silver Arrows.

Cool! Thanks.
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:56 PM   #298
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It’ll be exciting to see the “fully unlocked potential “ of the Honda engine battle it out with Merc.

Though, I was a critic at the start, I’m very happy to see them back! Especially in a team that can mold the next multiple WC, Max. But not til Hammy retires lol.
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Old 07-27-2019, 09:24 PM   #299
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Wow Ferrari loses both cars. Vettel doesn't even post a time. They need to stop raiding the Fiat parts bin.

I hope Max makes a good start. If he does it could be an interesting race. I'm hoping for rain, that'll mix it up.
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:01 AM   #300
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And turns out, Lewis has the flu and isn’t 100%. Apparently, Toto was ready to let Ocon drive if Lewis didn’t show up.
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:01 AM   #301
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I'm hoping for rain, that'll mix it up.
Where’s Bernie and his sprinklers?
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:02 PM   #302
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Ash got his wish (and admittedly so did I).....the track gets an "MM" for "mildly moist" (TG reference there....who can name the SIARPC?).

Since they've never driven 19-spec cars in the wet, this is gonna be interesting.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:25 PM   #303
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The decision to go to slicks was a disaster for two of the top three teams.

Verstappen was fortunate that his spin didn't hurt him. That was a pretty sweet 360 recovery.

And Mercedes looked positively Ferrariish on that disaster of an unscheduled HAM pit stop.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:52 PM   #304
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jesus christ this is SUCH a shitshow lol
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:07 PM   #305
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That was exciting!!!

Goodbye Gasly! Hello Albon or Kvyat?

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Old 07-28-2019, 04:09 PM   #306
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That Hamilton wing stop needs Yakety Sax played over it
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