theDoktor
Go Kart Champion
- Location
- Buffalo, NY area
- Car(s)
- 2017 GTI Sport
Thanks! Any idea what the minimum spacer might be?
Does anyone know which lug nuts (bolts?) I need to fit 18x8.5 Hypergrams on my Mk7? Will the stock wheel bolts work? Or is there a way to buy tuner style open ended bolts/lugs?
EDIT: So upon doing research it looks like these German cars use bolts instead of lugs. Is converting to bolts safe for these cars? Any pros/cons? What is the correct size studs if I wanted to convert to tuner lugs instead of the stock bolts?
Thanks for any help.
Figure I'd put this in an actual Hypergram thread. Didn't realize that the other thread is an Ampliform one[emoji16].
18x8.5 et43. 225-40-18. The rear has a 5mm spacer and the wheel still looks a bit inset. Waiting on some longer bolts to put the 12mm I had in the front when I had my stock wheels. Might try the 5mm in the front.
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These just got delivered today from DiscountTireDirect.com. 18x8.5 43et with General G-MAX RS 235/40/18. Just waiting for temps to stay above freezing on a regular basis here in the Chicago area, which should be sometime next week. It will be difficult to wait!
They weighed in at exactly 40.0 lbs on my digital scale, which sounds right as the wheels should be just under 18 lbs, and the tires at 22 lbs.
I had a set of Konig Ultraforms on my previous Focus ST, and they held up perfectly for the 2 years that I used them, with not even a blemish in the finish. So I expect these to be durable as well.
I installed these without any hub-centric rings.
If I am not getting any vibrations, why should I take the wheels off again to install these? Hub rings don't carry any load according to multiple sources. They merely make it easier to get the wheel lined up and centered and can help solve vibrations issues for those that have them.
I understand the need for those that have issues. Thanks for the links, though. I'll pick up a set of plastic ones to have on hand for when I install them next year.
There's more to it than "getting vibrations"....you're putting all of the load AND stress on the bolts only to hold the wheel centered. No bueno
Why do you think TireRack includes them with EVERY aftermarket wheel? To lose money by just handing them out?
Why do you think people want hub centric wheels? (whether OEM or Neuspeeds)
They have their purpose....PLEASE spend the $10 & take the 10 minutes to install them, seriously
According to a second common myth, the weight of the vehicle is supported by the hub pilot mating with the center bore of the wheel. If you don’t use hub centric rings, you transfer the weight of the vehicle to the lug hardware, and the wheel studs will break.
Fact is, the hub centric rings do not bear a load. The weight of the vehicle is actually supported by the friction between the wheel and its mounting surface on the axle. The friction is established and maintained once the lug hardware is properly installed and torqued to specs.
DiscountTire said:]Most aftermarket wheels are non-hub-centric, which means the center bore of the wheel is larger than the hub pilot of the vehicle. Hub rings fill the gap between the wheel’s center bore and the hub pilot. This aligns and centers the tire and wheel assembly on the vehicle. Although hub rings are not required, they can play a role in minimizing vibration. Note: Hub-centric rings don’t carry any load.
TireRack said:A centering ring (or hub centric ring) can be made of metal or plastic and either clicks into the back of the wheel or slides onto the hub of the vehicle - that way when you torque the lugs down, the wheel is already centered. The other way to do this, which is to use lug holes with cone-shaped bottoms with conical seat lug hardware. When installing lug centric wheels, jack the axle up so the wheel and tire are off the ground, then firmly hand-tighten the lugs down so the wheel meets the hub. Then, gradually and evenly start applying torque a little bit at a time to each lug in a star-shape pattern. As you add torque, the cone-shaped lugs shift the wheel upwards on the hub and center the wheel properly, preventing wheel vibration.
Thanks for your opinion.
I followed TireRack and Discount Tires advice on mounting the wheels. Below are quotes from their websites. Again, hub rings do NOT carry load according to multiple sources. They are useful for lining up the bolts and helping with vibrations.
We can agree to disagree, but here are the words from TireRack and Discount Tire regarding this as well as another "non-tire seller" article.
LMGTFY: https://www.onallcylinders.com/2016...bbub-argument-using-hub-centric-rings-wheels/