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Old 08-05-2018, 02:15 AM   #1
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Missing Transmission Fluid Fill Hole 2017 GTI Sport

I am wrapping up an RSR clutch install and I am trying to fill back what tranny oil leaked out when taking yet out for the swap but to my surprise the fill hole/plug is not in the design of my transmission. I have seen videos and photos online and I know exactly where it should be but it isnít there!

How can I go about topping off my transmission fluid with no fill hole and no idea how much fluid I need to put in?
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:42 AM   #2
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Well shit lol

If you have the car lifted level (all four corners) you could fill it via the drivers side axle cup

Maybe measure first but IIRC that’s the same level
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Old 10-06-2018, 05:32 PM   #3
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My car is the same....I guess it really is a lifetime fluid.
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Old 10-06-2018, 05:36 PM   #4
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My car is the same....I guess it really is a lifetime fluid.
“Lifetime” is through the end of the warranty

I changed mine at 36k and it was cooked already
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:33 PM   #5
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why would fluid leak out during a clutch change? Don't recall having this problem when i did mine.
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:18 PM   #6
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Answer from Jack Watts: You have to add fluid through the selector bolt, which is above the reverse sensor switch. It's plastic, 19 mm. Remove the air box and put the car in neutral, then remove the bolt.
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:15 AM   #7
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Answer from Jack Watts: You have to add fluid through the selector bolt, which is above the reverse sensor switch. It's plastic, 19 mm. Remove the air box and put the car in neutral, then remove the bolt.
How do you confirm the correct fluid level?
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:32 AM   #8
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How do you confirm the correct fluid level?
Second half of his post:

"Problem is, there is no way to set the level besides draining, then refilling 2.3 liters, so if you don't know how much leaked out, you'll have to drain and fill.This is straight out of the factory service manual..."

I would just measure what came out and add that amount back in.
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:37 AM   #9
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Second half of his post:

"Problem is, there is no way to set the level besides draining, then refilling 2.3 liters, so if you don't know how much leaked out, you'll have to drain and fill.This is straight out of the factory service manual..."

I would just measure what came out and add that amount back in.
That’s not accurate. It’s fill to spill out the port on the side that he’s lacking...

That’s why he needs to check what I said right off the get go. Is the missing fill port at the same level as the axle cup? If so, fill to spill there and call it a day.

From empty it takes 2.3 liters to reach the full or point that it spills out (as long as the car is level)

EDIT: after reading the above that’s much easier if the axles are already back in
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Old 10-09-2018, 05:40 AM   #10
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Thatís not accurate. Itís fill to spill
Not all VW transmissions are "fill to spill" some in the past, 5speeds and 6speeds are fill through the selector bolt.
From my years of working on VW/Audi, It seems to be based on the manufacture of the casing.
What SugarMouth said is correct for this year of car.
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:17 PM   #11
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Man, VW...what a stupid move to save a few cents!
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:57 PM   #12
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Went through this with my clutch install. Didn't realize it was lifetime and figured i'd change fluid while doing the clutch. It wasn't until after draining the fluid and doing the clutch that we realized there was no fill hole. We filled 2.3 through the selector bolt. I haven't had any issues going on about 3 months.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:06 PM   #13
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still don't understand why you would remove the axle cups to take out the gearbox, seems like the much harder way to go around it...either way hope you got your answers above.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:33 PM   #14
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still don't understand why you would remove the axle cups to take out the gearbox, seems like the much harder way to go around it...either way hope you got your answers above.
Removing the passenger side axle cup makes it quite a bit easier to drop the trans. No need to rotate the trans to 'walk' the axle cut around the top of the flywheel.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:44 PM   #15
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Removing the passenger side axle cup makes it quite a bit easier to drop the trans. No need to rotate the trans to 'walk' the axle cut around the top of the flywheel.
hmm makes sense, however i just dropped my entire subframe when i did mine. I figured a couple bolts extra vs messing with those cups was worth it.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:20 PM   #16
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still don't understand why you would remove the axle cups to take out the gearbox, seems like the much harder way to go around it...either way hope you got your answers above.
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hmm makes sense, however i just dropped my entire subframe when i did mine. I figured a couple bolts extra vs messing with those cups was worth it.

Don't you have to undo the steering rack, control arms and sway bar to get the subframe to drop? With the axle cups, its one bolt per cup and they come out without any effort.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:53 PM   #17
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Don't you have to undo the steering rack, control arms and sway bar to get the subframe to drop? With the axle cups, its one bolt per cup and they come out without any effort.
LOL yes to all, but bad experiences with my mk4 and persistent leaks after, didn't want to take the chance with the R... Besides I did it on a lift so it wasn't that hard. Hardest part was supporting the subframe with my head
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