The dealers in Phoenix don't allow test drives and only sell at sticker.
I got mine for 1600 off MSRP.
That's your problem. Leave California and you'll be able to buy cars.I must be living in a different reality than people who see Rs consistently advertised for $1,500-$3,500 below MSRP. I hop on Cars.com and it's MSRP as far as the eye can see here, unless I order from Florida or VA.
My local dealer in Santa Rosa has ONE, its MSRP, and the APR he's offering is 5.9%. (And I have 800+ credit!!!!)
(Oh wait, I am in a different reality, I'm in #@$%# California...)
Please excuse my ignorance because I still have a lot to learn. Golf R has like 30 or less torque more than GTI and about 60 hp? Nothing to sneeze at but 10k+ more than SE and not a lot of extras. Am I missing something?
Its not just about those numbers. R offers a totally different experience and its a personal preference if someone wants to spend that extra money or not.
Disclaimer: We have many a R vs GTI thread and i hope this doesnt become one.
Umm, not trying to turn this into anything, I admitted upfront my ignorance regarding the R, reason I was asking. Certainly not criticizing by any means. I’d love to have extra power from factory under warranty but just can’t justify dropping an extra 11-12k more than a SE. Here where I live, that’s close to the difference. Plus more on insurance, gas and I’d probably just get tickets anyway. I really think they could have done a bit more to separate the two.
Umm, not trying to turn this into anything, I admitted upfront my ignorance regarding the R, reason I was asking. Certainly not criticizing by any means. I’d love to have extra power from factory under warranty but just can’t justify dropping an extra 11-12k more than a SE. Here where I live, that’s close to the difference. Plus more on insurance, gas and I’d probably just get tickets anyway. I really think they could have done a bit more to separate the two.
Golf R is classified as a regular Golf by most insurance companies and is cheaper to insurance than a GTI (as reported by several owners).