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Old 07-27-2017, 02:36 PM   #1
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Getting rid of OEM Orange Peel

Any suggestions on how to get rid of the OEM Orange peel? It's really only on my doors, but it's annoying to see after about 4 hours of laboring.
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:50 PM   #2
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:55 PM   #3
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Orange peel???
Yep. It's where the paint looks like an orange peel. Not totally even.
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:28 PM   #4
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My car was covered in it down both sides. I did a two step compound on my car at 1100 miles in attempts to reduce it, then had a ceramic coating sprayed on heavily to level the clear coat. It reduced it by about 1/2 i'd say. Still visible though.

A PPF film would probably be a good way also, albeit expensive. Where I have clear bra looks much better then areas I do not in terms of smoothness and clarity.
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:40 PM   #5
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My car was covered in it down both sides. I did a two step compound on my car at 1100 miles in attempts to reduce it, then had a ceramic coating sprayed on heavily to level the clear coat. It reduced it by about 1/2 i'd say. Still visible though.

A PPF film would probably be a good way also, albeit expensive. Where I have clear bra looks much better then areas I do not in terms of smoothness and clarity.
Thanks. I was afraid that I'll have to live with it for the most part
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:55 PM   #6
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Thanks. I was afraid that I'll have to live with it for the most part
Unfortunately so

My 2012 TDI barely had any at all, very little on the top arch of the front fenders. But nothing compared to my '17. Paint quality has gone down from what I can tell, noticeably.
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Old 07-27-2017, 04:09 PM   #7
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3 stage paint correction? It will be costly, but you will get good result.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:07 PM   #8
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My golf is one of the smoothest paint cars I've ever had. But I see other golfs with more peel though. Maybe some colors are harder to paint in the factory.
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Old 07-28-2017, 12:56 AM   #9
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CarPro makes a denim pad specific to orange peel removal. It works, it's just a bit of a process
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Old 08-03-2017, 02:26 AM   #10
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You could purchase 3m's trizac system with 3000 & 5000 grit sand paper. If you use a orbital sander or even use a polisher with a soft interface pad to do the sanding, the polishing step will be much less labour intensive as there won't be straight line scratches to remove.

But in all honesty, I would not recommend spending the time to wet sand and polish factory paint due to the need for clear coat thickness to prevent UV damage.
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:54 PM   #11
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You could purchase 3m's trizac system with 3000 & 5000 grit sand paper. If you use a orbital sander or even use a polisher with a soft interface pad to do the sanding, the polishing step will be much less labour intensive as there won't be straight line scratches to remove.

But in all honesty, I would not recommend spending the time to wet sand and polish factory paint due to the need for clear coat thickness to prevent UV damage.
Well said, I would not worry much., because everytime you are touching the paint with a sander/buffer/polisher, you are removing .00001 micron of your protective clear coat.
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:48 AM   #12
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Well said, I would not worry much., because everytime you are touching the paint with a sander/buffer/polisher, you are removing .00001 micron of your protective clear coat.
Completely dependent on what pad and compound you're using. More aggressive abrasives remove more... if that wasn't obvious already.

MOST cars have ~100-150um total paint thickness (depending on panel), with clear being ~33% of that. So, 33-50um of clear coat. If you strike through the clear coat, you're fucked - it's a panel repaint.

Depending on how hard the clearcoat is, compounding with something like Griots BOSS FCC or Meguiars M105 will remove ~3-5 microns PER PASS. So, if you compound an area twice to get full removal of scratches, you're removing 6-10 microns. This could be more than 1/4 of your clear coat on a thin panel!

Orange peel is relatively large, which is why wet sanding is the recommended process for removal. This also means you're removing a lot of material to remove it - figure in the 10-20 micron range. Now, it's unlikely a thinly painted panel will have much orange peel, but you're still talking 20-40% of your clear gone.

In other words - unless this is a show car, I wouldn't bother. The risk outweighs the reward on orange peel. Getting it to 95%, but leaving the orange peel, is probably your best option.
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:49 PM   #13
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^abt12 gets it. Cut it if you must, but it is protection you're removing. Alternatively, if you're correcting then ppf that's another story.
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Old 11-23-2017, 05:46 AM   #14
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^abt12 gets it. Cut it if you must, but it is protection you're removing. Alternatively, if you're correcting then ppf that's another story.
Yep,. But PPF will likely hide the vast majority of the orange peel anyway
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Old 11-24-2017, 03:39 AM   #15
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Danger lurks here. If the orange peel is part of the color coats no amount of compounding, either by hand or power is gonna touch it until the clear coat is obliterated.
If the problem is in the clear coat there's hope but be very careful.

I think mostly we have to live with it. It doesn't seem to be "price specific" as I've owned cheap cars that came with great smooth paint layout and I've had expensive cars that were covered in orange peel. It's a crapshoot.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:29 PM   #17
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Danger lurks here. If the orange peel is part of the color coats no amount of compounding, either by hand or power is gonna touch it until the clear coat is obliterated.
If the problem is in the clear coat there's hope but be very careful.

I think mostly we have to live with it. It doesn't seem to be "price specific" as I've owned cheap cars that came with great smooth paint layout and I've had expensive cars that were covered in orange peel. It's a crapshoot.
Myself and some others have reduced our orange peel significantly, indicating it is the clear, as my car is still Pure White.

Then, top that with 8 microns of ceramic pro 9H and it got even better.
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