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Old 01-21-2018, 08:26 PM   #11816
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How exactly do I run a log? The directions on the first page aren't lining up with the newest version of the software. I can't find controller diagnostics anymore.
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:27 AM   #11817
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Elevation is 2389 I have access to ACN91. E85 is around here but I really donít want to have to rely on always finding e85 if I travel.

The road was decently smooth and that was something I thought of with ghost knock.

89 and 91 timing was similar boost was identical. Even though the slider for boost was way different.
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Old 01-22-2018, 01:55 AM   #11818
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Elevation is 2389 I have access to ACN91. E85 is around here but I really don’t want to have to rely on always finding e85 if I travel.

The road was decently smooth and that was something I thought of with ghost knock.

89 and 91 timing was similar boost was identical. Even though the slider for boost was way different.
Ok, that's good info. ACN91 is shitty fuel from what I understand. An ethanol splash-blend would help out quite a lot, and allow you to run a higher octane map and more boost. If you're travelling and only have access to 91 or 93, you can easily adjust for that. Keep the power-tap in the glovebox and a laptop or tablet with charger in your bag or somewhere in the car.

It doesn't matter that the boost value was set higher on the 89 log. The ECU is only going to make enough boost to reach a given torque target. The torque target is going to be different on a low octane map versus a high octane map. I'd consider 91 to be a low octane map, when we have 97 as a high octane map. Especially considering the lower quality fuel being used.

It doesn't matter that you are setting the max boost as 27, because it only needs 23.5 to meet the criteria. The boost setting is defined as the maximum allowed, not as a target to reach.

The last log you posted only has a couple of small timing corrections, but nothing out of the ordinary. It looks very clean.

Set the octane setting to 91 and take a log in similar weather and in the same place if possible. Or if you have one, post it up.
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:49 AM   #11819
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That’s great info, thanks. I asked a master tech friend who is mod friendly and he says VW didn’t design our cars for ethanol use. I’ll have this car for awhile so I really don’t want to go through fuel components anytime soon. I know a lot of people have used it for years but I’m torn. Here’s one I took previous at 27/91.

I’ve been told Maestro can clean a lot of this up. I made a lot of power on other cars with our gas so I have to say it’s possible to make plenty on 91

https://datazap.me/u/phsycomatt89/is...ta=1&zoom=0-53
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:59 AM   #11820
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Thatís great info, thanks. I asked a master tech friend who is mod friendly and he says VW didnít design our cars for ethanol use. Iíll have this car for awhile so I really donít want to go through fuel components anytime soon. I know a lot of people have used it for years but Iím torn. Hereís one I took previous at 27/91.

https://datazap.me/u/phsycomatt89/is...ta=1&zoom=0-53
Go water/meth it helps a lot with heat and shit gas. I have the same garbage gas as you in Yuma arizona

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Old 01-22-2018, 05:20 AM   #11821
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Go water/meth it helps a lot with heat and shit gas. I have the same garbage gas as you in Yuma arizona

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Yeah Iíve looked into that and had it on other cars. It works wonders. But I really donít want to be tuned for it and risk a system failure and cause engine damage.

Also it seems our meth entry point doesnít actually net much octane boost since itís almost all evaporated before it gets to the engine. But IAT control for real.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:12 PM   #11822
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Thatís great info, thanks. I asked a master tech friend who is mod friendly and he says VW didnít design our cars for ethanol use. Iíll have this car for awhile so I really donít want to go through fuel components anytime soon. I know a lot of people have used it for years but Iím torn. Hereís one I took previous at 27/91.

Iíve been told Maestro can clean a lot of this up. I made a lot of power on other cars with our gas so I have to say itís possible to make plenty on 91

https://datazap.me/u/phsycomatt89/is...ta=1&zoom=0-53
That log looks clean also. It looks like you let off the gas and got back on it. I noticed the boost curve fell and the accel. pedal pos. decreased. Try the base Maestro file set at 91/24 and go from there. If you don't like it or encounter issues, you can always flash back to the file you're currently using
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:40 PM   #11823
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That log looks clean also. It looks like you let off the gas and got back on it. I noticed the boost curve fell and the accel. pedal pos. decreased. Try the base Maestro file set at 91/24 and go from there. If you don't like it or encounter issues, you can always flash back to the file you're currently using
You are right, the turbo made that fun surge noise when losing it up lower rpm.

You think the base file is better than adjustable untouched like you said?

These pulls were both like 55-60F ambient. The others at about 78F had -4.5 on 6.5 degrees of timing which was concerning.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:01 PM   #11824
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Base file is more aggressive for sure.....i have logged both.....torque higher on maestro base file...car feels more violent...
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:22 PM   #11825
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sweet, I will try that out. I donít want to set records I just want to optimize with 91.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:36 PM   #11826
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Base file is more aggressive for sure.....i have logged both.....torque higher on maestro base file...car feels more violent...
So if I change from Stg 2 adjustable to Stg 2 base Maestro, can I adjust octane/PSI just like the adjustable file before I get a custom Maestro? Been waiting on my IC install to get the Maestro custom tune.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:15 PM   #11827
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So if I change from Stg 2 adjustable to Stg 2 base Maestro, can I adjust octane/PSI just like the adjustable file before I get a custom Maestro? Been waiting on my IC install to get the Maestro custom tune.
Yes, you can. no even has to pay for maestro credits for use base file.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:18 PM   #11828
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Yes, you can. no even has to pay for maestro credits for use base file.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but we need to at 3 credits to even load the base file right?
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:22 PM   #11829
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No base file is free.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:23 PM   #11830
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Correct me if Iím wrong, but we need to at 3 credits to even load the base file right?
No, it's available to anyone.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:25 PM   #11831
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So apparently there's a new Stage 1 DSG file that came out recently and I wasn't aware of it. Any pros/cons or is it basically the same thing, but no stg2 available?
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:26 PM   #11832
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SoB I have been wasting a lot of time and fuel on the adjustable map

Getting this file is under Maestro I assume? Itís not with the other stage 1,2 etc files.
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