I know it's been mentioned that 5150 never drops below 12 but as far as custom tunes go the other one I've seen (and experienced) is maperformance and they dropped to 11s as well. Is it possible the other tunes being ots tunes just run 12s as a safe standard because it's an ots tune every car that uses it will be different? I only say this because as custome tunes go I've seen them all go 11s except 5150 so taking any biased views out of the equation is it possible 5150 just feels more comfortable with that in his tunes. Not meaning his is better than everyone else because he keeps his afr in the 12s. And as for saying a tuner messes with the knock sensitivity I believe deviation was the only one that said that and I agree with you I don't think anyone has done that.
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I'm going to be 100% honest and say. That is due to lack of knowledge and experience in understanding the platform. APR spent hundreds of hours on testing in hot, cold and almost every environment and landed on 12+. As well as all other major OTS. Go look what WRXs with a turbo 4 DI motor run tuned. The best subie FA tuner doesn't tune for 11's
I think I'm going to just drop this debate here oncr and for all and just say it 11 is what you are comfortable with by all means. But you aren't getting close to what the optimal performance of the car can do period.