Intercooler performance

Crackness1 · Feb 21, 2019

Not sure if this is still a thing, but this log goes from a quick stop sign, to easy accel through first and second, and then a 3rd gear run w/ GTI Jake's FMIC all in the humid south florida weather at around 83 degrees ambient, in the sunshine:

https://datazap.me/u/crackness/full-run-new-clutch?log=0&data=1-4-6

Twist1 · Feb 21, 2019

Another great cheap option is the cts direct fit intercooler. It takes a little work and know how to fit right but once you do it is one of the biggest out there in terms of size. The thing is massive! I got mine for 550 shipped brand new. It is similar in design to IE with the split vane

Even on is20 to is38 it has no spool loss due to its size, it's comical how fast it drops iats in boost. No matter what the conditions are, it smacks it down to 5-10 above ambient and holds it there no matter how long you stay on the throttle. Even through 5th gear

JerseyDrew77 · Feb 21, 2019

Twist said:
Another great cheap option is the cts direct fit intercooler. It takes a little work and know how to fit right but once you do it is one of the biggest out there in terms of size. The thing is massive! I got mine for 550 shipped brand new. It is similar in design to IE with the split vane

Even on is20 to is38 it has no spool loss due to its size, it's comical how fast it drops iats in boost. No matter what the conditions are, it smacks it down to 5-10 above ambient and holds it there no matter how long you stay on the throttle. Even through 5th gear

That's because the core is a bar and plate design. I have it on my car and it's a great IC. Heavy but works great!

Hoon · Feb 21, 2019

JerseyDrew77 said:
That's because the core is a bar and plate design. I have it on my car and it's a great IC. Heavy but works great!

Is there a single aftermarket IC that's tube and fin?

JerseyDrew77 · Feb 21, 2019

Uni, IE, and I believe APR cores are tube and fin.

Hoon · Feb 21, 2019

JerseyDrew77 said:
Uni, IE, and I believe APR cores are tube and fin.

Those are all bar and plate.

As far as I know, no one makes a tube and fin.

Dragk913 · Feb 21, 2019

Isn't Wagner tube & fin?

JerseyDrew77 · Feb 21, 2019

Hoon said:
Those are all bar and plate.

As far as I know, no one makes a tube and fin.

I think you have it the other way around but I will double check. I remember going with CTS IC because they were one of the few that had a bar and plate design while the rest were tube and fin.

JerseyDrew77 · Feb 21, 2019

Ok, so I was wrong about two and half right with a third one...

APR = bar and plate
IE = bar and fin
Uni = bar and plate
Wagner = tube and fin

Hoon · Feb 21, 2019

JerseyDrew77 said:
Ok, so I was wrong about two and half right with a third one...

APR = bar and plate
IE = bar and fin
Uni = bar and plate
Wagner = tube and fin

Interesting, thanks.

ALE 5six1 · Feb 21, 2019

JerseyDrew77 said:
IE = bar and fin

There is a "bar and fin" design? or is that a typo?

I am also surprised that Wagner is Tube and Fin.

There is a seller on ebay who has a tube an fin, but I never paid much attention to it b/c I was always told bar and plate is the better option.
https://tinyurl.com/y2shjubm

JerseyDrew77 · Feb 21, 2019

ALE 5six1 said:
There is a "bar and fin" design? or is that a typo?

I am also surprised that Wagner is Tube and Fin.

There is a seller on ebay who has a tube an fin, but I never paid much attention to it b/c I was always told bar and plate is the better option.
https://tinyurl.com/y2shjubm

Bar and plate is the better design and no, that is not a typo unless the website had a typo. I just checked IE's website and it says bar and plate. So the other website I was at, Uro Tuning, had it wrong.

MyGolfMk7 · Feb 23, 2019

ALE 5six1 said:
There is a "bar and fin" design? or is that a typo?

I am also surprised that Wagner is Tube and Fin.

There is a seller on ebay who has a tube an fin, but I never paid much attention to it b/c I was always told bar and plate is the better option.
https://tinyurl.com/y2shjubm

Which design is supposedly better isn't all that important with all of these products accessible to see how they do perform. I've not seen much on the Wagner, but in general most ICs appear to perform similarly on a single gear pull. I've tried compiling results and aside from a couple low data point outliers the products are within 5-10 degrees of one another.

Slick99 · Feb 26, 2019

MyGolfMk7 said:
Which design is supposedly better isn't all that important with all of these products accessible to see how they do perform. I've not seen much on the Wagner, but in general most ICs appear to perform similarly on a single gear pull. I've tried compiling results and aside from a couple low data point outliers the products are within 5-10 degrees of one another.

just noticed u didnt update the BMS intercooler size i think its 24"x 16" x 2"- 768inch

MyGolfMk7 · Feb 26, 2019

Slick99 said:
just noticed u didnt update the BMS intercooler size i think its 24"x 16" x 2"- 768inch

I hadn't seen the dimensions given on the Burger website for the IC. Did they get published someplace else?

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