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What Did You Drive Before You Drove A MKVII Golf, GTI or R?

KevinC

Autocross Champion
Location
Cochise County, AZ
Car(s)
'19 Golf R, '08 Z4MC
Super clean mini. I'm looking for a clean MT 52/53 myself but can't seem to find any clean low mileage ones around me.
Keep an eye on Bring-a-Trailer. Some really nice ones have been coming up for auction there recently.
 

Corprin

Drag Racing Champion
Location
Twin Cities
FWD SR20 homer here. The G20 chassis was based on the Nissan primera which is what they used in the btcc in the 90s so it is more capable from a handling standpoint than you think. Yes they made a manual. Also, most don’t realize that SR20 engines came in fwd stock in the US and not just 240sx chassis in Japan.

That being said, I’ve never driven one, only the B chassis cars lol. dosjockey was it a p10 or p11?

Mmmmm nx2000
 

dosjockey

Go Kart Champion
Location
South
the automatic Sentra driving nirvana? Never driven one, just sounds surprising. Or did they make a manual?
Manual, tight suspension, and a front wet clutch limited slip. It rode like a Cadillac, handled like a contemporary BMW (FWD, but the same road feel), was incredibly comfortable, and the revs dropped like a lead balloon.

Now, you weren't actually going anywhere in a great hurry from a power perspective, but what it had... It used. All 145 horsepower. You could feel every last flea on that hide.

You can easily buy a "better" car, no doubt. Hell, I have better cars, but what you can't buy is that total package. Ask around your circles sometime, there will be someone that owned a G20t... The forgotten brilliant automobile.

Even with that piddly power and Titanic turning radius, you could get the thing obscenely close to 90 degrees and pull it back with one hand while having a smoke. Even the interior held up to modern inspection. Now, it's not a Miata, it's not an S2000; it's a quick sedan with a touch of luxury, but it makes every drive special.

It did everything incredibly well. That was the stupidest $1,000 I've ever collected; but on the same token, now I have an excuse to find a nice one.

It's a criminally underrated car. The community is pretty much dead now, unfortunately. There weren't really enough of them, nobody in that market was ready for FWD, Infiniti wasn't a big name here yet and was marketed to the wrong crowds, and so on.

If you ever see one that's in decent shape and cheap enough for an impulse buy... Go for it. Drive it into the ground. :cool:
 

dosjockey

Go Kart Champion
Location
South
FWD SR20 homer here. The G20 chassis was based on the Nissan primera which is what they used in the btcc in the 90s so it is more capable from a handling standpoint than you think. Yes they made a manual. Also, most don’t realize that SR20 engines came in fwd stock in the US and not just 240sx chassis in Japan.

That being said, I’ve never driven one, only the B chassis cars lol. dosjockey was it a p10 or p11?
P11. It's a give and take between the models, but the P11 holds up more in the "it's still just as nice as it was" category.

Like I said, it wasn't the prettiest example, but it still had it where it counted.

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Sparky589

Go Kart Newbie
E46 M3, headers, exhaust, tune, suspension. Some horrible human in a focus wrecked it. 150k miles, over 300 whp. The GTI turns in like it doesn't know it's fwd. I don't hate it.
Sucks to hear about your E46, getting a clean example of one of those is absolutely on my automotive bucket list.
 

The Dude

Go Kart Champion
Location
PNW
Sucks to hear about your E46, getting a clean example of one of those is absolutely on my automotive bucket list.
Slammed on 18x10/13.5 ccw's, headers, titanium section 3. I'd just ordered a carbon airbox when the car got hit 🤬 Alpine white on Cinnamon.
 

dosjockey

Go Kart Champion
Location
South
I've never seen the 93 Sentra SE-R described as incredible before.
These come from a time when Nissan was still half crazy, and about three quarters too humble. It bit them in the ass eventually; as well as a complete and total misinterpretation of the US market. We're talking about a company that took a pint-sized car you can autograph a track with, wrapped it in leather, and tried to sell it as a near-luxury car to up and coming yuppies with only 145bhp to brag about. Understeer? You can hand someone the keys and convince them it's RWD.

Despite my frustrations with the Golf GTI, it's not a bad comparison with the actual G20T. They have a lot in common in many ways, but one's Kirk and the other is Picard. I've compared it to an S3 from the same period before, actually; but tighter and livelier. I will say if they were still made today, there would probably be threads here arguing which one was better for the same price.

At that time, they were a bit like Mercedes is in 2020, and now they're like Mercedes was in 2004. :ROFLMAO:

Nissan/Infiniti up to 2002 is some of the cheapest fun that won't cause herpes. Everyone just plain forgot about them. It's always... "Oh, hell! I had one of those... Forgot all about it. Never should have sold the thing."

It's a shame, but hopefully they'll be rediscovered and polished up eventually. Not everything is saved, though. Some things stay forgotten.
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Location
Phoenix
Car(s)
2018 SE DSG
These come from a time when Nissan was still half crazy, and about three quarters too humble. It bit them in the ass eventually; as well as a complete and total misinterpretation of the US market. We're talking about a company that took a pint-sized car you can autograph a track with, wrapped it in leather, and tried to sell it as a near-luxury car to up and coming yuppies with only 145bhp to brag about. Understeer? You can hand someone the keys and convince them it's RWD.

Despite my frustrations with the Golf GTI, it's not a bad comparison with the actual G20T. They have a lot in common in many ways, but one's Kirk and the other is Picard. I've compared it to an S3 from the same period before, actually; but tighter and livelier. I will say if they were still made today, there would probably be threads here arguing which one was better for the same price.

At that time, they were a bit like Mercedes is in 2020, and now they're like Mercedes was in 2004. :ROFLMAO:

Nissan/Infiniti up to 2002 is some of the cheapest fun that won't cause herpes. Everyone just plain forgot about them. It's always... "Oh, hell! I had one of those... Forgot all about it. Never should have sold the thing."

It's a shame, but hopefully they'll be rediscovered and polished up eventually. Not everything is saved, though. Some things stay forgotten.
Had a 99 Nissan Maxima that I supercharged. One of the most fun cars I've had. 325 WHP, manual trans. It only weighed 2950 lbs.
 
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