vland mk7.5 Sequential taillight

[Canecreekfreak]

Thanks for posting all the info here y'all! Just got the vland tails delivered today, and was a little lost on what to do next. This post is a huge help, so thanks again!!!

 

[Canecreekfreak]

Hi All- I finally got the harness from Amazon, and got around to wiring up my VLand tails. All the lights are working now, but not really in the fashion that they should be. I first did the OBD11 "DAP wiring harness" coding, and that wasn't quite right. Then I used the instructions from post #5 on this thread, and that got me even closer, but not right. So I tried all the coding from the 4 page attachment from post #14, and that royally messed everything up. LOL. So I back-tracked those changes, and did the 15 changes from post #5 again, and that has me to the point as seen in the linked video below.

Basically, 1- the inner lights are working as brake lights, which I actually don't mind, even though it's not correct. And
2- the outer brake lights are always the brake lights, they just get brighter and dimmer. They don't do the change from the running lights to brake lights as they're supposed to. They actually did that before I did any coding, which is kinda funny.

So can anyone help me with the coding changes I need to make to get these 2 situations working correctly? More interested in fixing #2, but doing both would be nice. It's on a US 2017 VW GTI.

Thanks in advance!! -Lee
Link:
My tail lights aren't working correctly

 

[ZERO815]

I apologize if this sounds rude to you but here are your 2 issues:

1. "Amazon - Product description: Brand new adapter harnesses for the MK7 Golf/GTI Euro LED taillights! Give your vehicle amber turn signals and inner taillights with functioning brake/signal lights! Made with automotive grade wiring and OEM connectors! Comes with pre-labeled wires! Harnesses are Plug & Play, but coding with VCDS will be required for proper function! This listing is for (4) wiring harnesses only!"

Plug & Play but coding required for proper function, and it even comes w/o coding list? Unless you know what you are doing, how can you even send money to these guys?

2. Coding is always specific to the harness and application (lights, vehicle,...). IMO you should never use any OBDeleven apps. The general idea of apps isn't bad, but I've seen to many minor MY changes from the factory in the coding. If that's the case w/ your vehicle you're out of control.

Let's go back to topic. What are the current vehicle coding values for:
1. Leuchte20BR LA71-Dimmwert EF 20
2. Leuchte21BR RC8-Dimmwert EF 21 ?

I guess they are at 28 ish? Set them to 10 instead and report back.

 

[Canecreekfreak]

Hi Zero815- no offense taken- I'm happy that you replied and offered to help! I know I went the cheap route, and am obviously paying for it now. Another person said they went this route and it worked for them, so I thought I'd give it a shot.

Both of those Dimmwert EF's are currently set at 10. Here's pics of all the setting for Leuchte20/21/23/24... Hopefully it can explain why the inner lights are working as brake lights, which I actually don't mind, even though it's not correct.
And the outer brake lights are always the brake lights, they just get brighter and dimmer. They don't do the change from the running lights to brake lights as they're supposed to, and did before any wiring/coding.

Thanks again for offering to help.

 

[ZERO815]

Lee,
Thanks for sharing the coding of 20/21/23/24. I might be blind but I don't see an obvious mistake in 20/21. Because 23/24 activate the turn signals correctly there is almost only one suspicious light channel left: Leuchte27. Depending on the harness you've got it might be causing the issue. Search for "Leuchte27NSL RC6-Lichtfunktion A 27" and set it from "Standlicht..." to "not active".

 

[Canecreekfreak]

Ok, flipped that setting and it seems to have had no effect. Attached are the other settings for 27/28/29 (before I made the change to 27/A27/Not aktiv). And thanks again for your help!

 

[ZERO815]

You mentioned brake light and running light switching worked before you started wiring/coding. Does that include the new tail lights?

To my knowledge these tails come with some wiring between inner and outer tails. Did you install these wires and the harness? Harness should be enough IMO.

If I were in your shoes I would do the following:
1. Unplug the harness, revert coding back to factory, plug factory plugs into factory lights and confirm they work as NA MK7 halogen tails (shared brake/running/turn)
2. Replace factory tails with your new lights. Do they function as the factory tails (don‘t expect the amber turn signals to work)?
3. Plug the harness back in, no coding. What happens? I expect the tails to work as in 2. except for the amber section. It should turn on solid with running lights on.
4. If 3. = true change coding and you are good to go. Else: Something is wrong with the harness.

 

[Canecreekfreak]

Ok, I'll give that a try when I get a chance later this week. Thanks again for all your help!

 

[Canecreekfreak]

Finally got around to checking things out, and the harness I got has wires going from inside to outside, weird splices, and all sorts of seemingly unnecessary changes. I printed out the attachment from post #14 in this thread which has instructions from Zero815 where you re-pin a drivers inner light, an outer passenger light, and remove one of the wires going to the outer drivers light. It had some coding instructions that went along with it, and that did the trick. Everything works as is should, after running a jumper wire from the inner passenger reverse light to the inner drivers side. So basically the harness was a waste of money as you don't need it to get the VLand lights working properly.

Shout out to Zero815 for answering posts on this thread, as well as having those other instructions available.

 

[Daniel López]

Just wondering are VLAND taillights good quality? I have the LED Euro Spec GTI so I assume it will be plug and play.

 

[Xta]

How di

Coding is definitely needed. I installed Vlands myself. They come with 7 and 7.5 harnesses and the single yellow wire for the sequential turns. I used @ZERO815 guide for just relocating wires in the harnesses and adding a third wire. I didn’t use the plug and play harness

please explain how did you add the third wire & where ?

 

[gixxerfool]

How di


please explain how did you add the third wire & where ?

I can somewhat. It ran from the passenger side to driver side hatch side lights. I will need to find the guide I used to give you the pin outs specifically and update the post.

 

[Xta]

I can somewhat. It ran from the passenger side to driver side hatch side lights. I will need to find the guide I used to give you the pin outs specifically and update the post.

hi gixxerfool plz find it I'm kinda stuck needing more info before I proceed, it will be much appreciated
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[gixxerfool]

hi gixxerfool plz find it I'm kinda stuck needing more info before I proceed, it will be much appreciated
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Sorry for the delay.

You will need a terminal for inner-left body side tail lamp harness. you can source these from TE Connectivity or a supplier of their parts. Here is the VW part number 000-979-025-E for the actual wire. It’s really expensive for one wire, but it’s crimped with the correct terminals already and you can order from whatever VW stockist you would like.

Another option, since you need to remove pin 4 from the outer-left body side harness anyways is to snip it and reuse it for the third wire. if you go this route, I highly recommend you leave enough length in order to splice it back to stock if you want.

On the hatch side of the harness, you will need to locate the inner-right tail lamp harness connector. Pin 4 should be a black and blue wire. You will splice the third wire into this. You don’t disconnect it from the connector, just add on the third wire to it.

Run your new wire in whatever fashion you choose across the hatch to the inner-left body side harness connector. Plug the precrimped terminal end into space 4 which, if you followed the rest of the same guide should be vacant now as that wire is in spot three. So the new order from 1-5 on the inner-left should be:
1-gray black
2-red
3-blue black
4- new third wire from the inner-right
5-empty

This is Zero815’s guide, not mine, but it was the only information I needed to get this done. Mind my scribbling at the top.

hope this helps

 

[Xta]

Sorry for the delay.

You will need a terminal for inner-left body side tail lamp harness. you can source these from TE Connectivity or a supplier of their parts. Here is the VW part number 000-979-025-E for the actual wire. It’s really expensive for one wire, but it’s crimped with the correct terminals already and you can order from whatever VW stockist you would like.

Another option, since you need to remove pin 4 from the outer-left body side harness anyways is to snip it and reuse it for the third wire. if you go this route, I highly recommend you leave enough length in order to splice it back to stock if you want.

On the hatch side of the harness, you will need to locate the inner-right tail lamp harness connector. Pin 4 should be a black and blue wire. You will splice the third wire into this. You don’t disconnect it from the connector, just add on the third wire to it.

Run your new wire in whatever fashion you choose across the hatch to the inner-left body side harness connector. Plug the precrimped terminal end into space 4 which, if you followed the rest of the same guide should be vacant now as that wire is in spot three. So the new order from 1-5 on the inner-left should be:
1-gray black
2-red
3-blue black
4- new third wire from the inner-right
5-empty

This is Zero815’s guide, not mine, but it was the only information I needed to get this done. Mind my scribbling at the top.

hope this helps


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thank you well explained I will try this will out.