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Vibration?

Yomny1

Ready to race!
Location
S Florida
Haaha well that works too. I think no car is perfect honestly, even new. My wife's mini offers a lot of road noise, the seats in my 335 were a bit ackward for me and my STi's interior rattled even during its first year lol. Gotta love the car for its good things. Best of luck with anyone having serious vibration issues.
 

lcubed

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Location
midatlantic
Refer to my post. I've had my car into 5 different shops over the course of 6 months trying to get my vibration issue solved. in the process, I've gotten a suspension component replaced, I've replaced all 4 of my rims, gotten brand new lug bolts, brand new hubcentric rings, and I've gotten tire balances.

My car still vibrates.
did any of the five shops actually unmount the tires from the wheels and rotate to minimize the effect of the heavy spot (usually marked on the new tires)?

if they didn't do at least that, then maybe not a great shop.
 

TQGTI

New member
Location
South Africa
This is definitely not an isolated incident.

I picked up my brand new 2016 G7 GTI on Tuesday.
I've done around 300 miles so far and took the car out on the highway this weekend and immediately noticed the vibration at around 75-80 mph. Looked over at the passenger seat and it was shaking like crazy.

Will be taking the car back to the dealer tomorrow.
 

PLF8593

Go Kart Champion
I've gotten a case number assigned from VW but I'm not sure I want to continue with this headache, in my case is not so bad as to have to go through my local dealers incompetence and the whole dreadful back and forth. Best of luck to you guys, if recommend reaching out directly to vw and let the warranty take care of this.

I'm in the same boat. I feel defeated and barely even care to throw any more time or money at it.
 

PLF8593

Go Kart Champion
This is definitely not an isolated incident.

I picked up my brand new 2016 G7 GTI on Tuesday.
I've done around 300 miles so far and took the car out on the highway this weekend and immediately noticed the vibration at around 75-80 mph. Looked over at the passenger seat and it was shaking like crazy.

Will be taking the car back to the dealer tomorrow.

Seat shaking! Can you hear it shaking too? The sound drives me absolutely fucking crazy unless my music is loud enough to cover it up (and I drive 4 50 mile trips on the highway a week, so I have to deal with it all the time)
 

Yomny1

Ready to race!
Location
S Florida
I'm in the same boat. I feel defeated and barely even care to throw any more time or money at it.
I drove around today quite a lot and included a variety of surfaces, asphalt, concrete on some bridges and varied speeds. I think it could be related to the tires. I think the all season 500 tread wear tires could have something to do with this roughness. I feel the vibration at times but then other times it wasn't there, varied on road surfaces but when it did occur it was at about 80mph. Don't even know what to make of it, just hope it doesn't get worse.

In the other hand it seems others are having this vibration to a higher degree of severity. Taking it in and not letting the car leave the dealer till its completely resolved would be your best bet.
 

lcubed

Ready to race!
Location
midatlantic
factory specs are 88 ft-lbs.

I switched over from my winter wheels to my summer Cadiz wheels yesterday and noticed one could easily not load the bolts properly if the wheel is not properly seated on the hub (and one was not paying attention) ala tireshop monkey boy.

zero new vibration (other than the rougher ride associated with 19" wheels vs 17" wheels)
 

TQGTI

New member
Location
South Africa
I posted in this thread a few weeks ago as i was experiecing the same vibrations and thought i would give some feedback as the problem has been resolved!

So I took the car back the very next day, car was sent to a tyre shop (I took the car to the tyre shop myself) for balancing, as we suspected that this was the problem.

When the tyres were placed in the machine for balancing, they were all balanced correctly, however immediately you could see that the tyres were out of round (flat spotted).

The tyre shop notified the dealership and within an hour they called me to let me know that they had ordered new wheels for my car.

The wheels arrived and were fitted this morning and I am very glad to report that the problem is fixed and all vibrations are gone!

Epic after sales service from the dealership as well!
 

manfriday

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Location
USA
Stopped reading after first 3 pages but I had the issue when I went to Winter wheels and tires. The tires were from 17" rim I had on 15 GTI. The GTI never missed a beat at any speed regardless of wheel & tire combination. I bought new 17" wheels for R because of clearance issues but reused still good Conti Extreme Winter Contact (no longer in production).
Had dealer fit and balance and it was awful. At high 70's mph vibration began and got worse with speed. Had indie shop try (3 times) and only slight improvement. The last attempt I watched up close what their procedure was.
Balance new wheels and tires
Remove old wheels and replace. They put wheels with least balance weights on front.
Hand thread a couple of turns per stud then air gun to click
Lower car to ground
Hand torque to 95lbs (They hand torque EVERY car to the same spec)
Vibration persists but nowhere near as bad

Interspersed with all these trips to garages was a lot of forum reading including incantations, spells and voodoo but mostly a lot of cursing about how I missed my GTI

Next step was to replace centering rings as new wheels came with rings but looked quite pointless/useless
Found a new tire shop with a RoadForce balancer and had wheels re balanced.
Fitted wheels myself, one at a time. Hand tighten studs and wrench on to snug fit
lower car and torque to 88lbs (in the manual) with car on ground.
Done, problem solved......until I went back to Summer 19" wheels.
Refit, re torque and problem solved.
 

PLF8593

Go Kart Champion
Stopped reading after first 3 pages but I had the issue when I went to Winter wheels and tires. The tires were from 17" rim I had on 15 GTI. The GTI never missed a beat at any speed regardless of wheel & tire combination. I bought new 17" wheels for R because of clearance issues but reused still good Conti Extreme Winter Contact (no longer in production).
Had dealer fit and balance and it was awful. At high 70's mph vibration began and got worse with speed. Had indie shop try (3 times) and only slight improvement. The last attempt I watched up close what their procedure was.
Balance new wheels and tires
Remove old wheels and replace. They put wheels with least balance weights on front.
Hand thread a couple of turns per stud then air gun to click
Lower car to ground
Hand torque to 95lbs (They hand torque EVERY car to the same spec)
Vibration persists but nowhere near as bad

Interspersed with all these trips to garages was a lot of forum reading including incantations, spells and voodoo but mostly a lot of cursing about how I missed my GTI

Next step was to replace centering rings as new wheels came with rings but looked quite pointless/useless
Found a new tire shop with a RoadForce balancer and had wheels re balanced.
Fitted wheels myself, one at a time. Hand tighten studs and wrench on to snug fit
lower car and torque to 88lbs (in the manual) with car on ground.
Done, problem solved......until I went back to Summer 19" wheels.
Refit, re torque and problem solved.


This gives me hope
 

PLF8593

Go Kart Champion
There is a post (which I am trying to find) that highlights a hub centric ring solution available from Tire rack explicitly for MK7. Might be worth a call to TR and make request for MK7 R
Word. I put a set of brand new 235 40 18 Cooper Zeon RS3-A's on my car last week and it vibrates so much less than it did before that I'm honestly comfortable with closing my concerns and being done with it all. It still vibrates, but I've chalked it up to "increased NVH" from the stickier tires w/ stiffer sidewall.
 

lucyfek

Ready to race!
Location
IL USA
I've got new wheel package from TR (with the new centering rings as pictured in the linked post). All I can say is that the noise/vibration is still there (just a plain Golf) and is definitely speed related (but not engine speed) but I can't pin point the source. It's most pronounced on washed out asphalt pavement (gets quite noisy inside at 60mph). I've also found that driver side rear abs cable had tendency to rub against the body (or at least had enough wiggle to do so), I've wrapped it with a bit of insulation foam, time will tell (still looking for other options).
 

Al_in_Philly

Go Kart Champion
Location
Philadelphia USA
Careful torquing worked for me!

First, a little background (although some of it has been posted before). A few months back I bought a set of Advanti HY Hybris wheels from Tire Rack which I noticed showed some degree of vibration above 75 MPH--nothing serious, but it ought not be there. Why have a car capable of pulling 155 if you can't drive it smoothly past 75?

I read around and found the thread on Vortex where Tire Rack did the right thing and fabricated a set of deeper hub-centric rings (to fit past the taper found on Mk7 wheel hubs) for one of their customers with a GTI. So I contacted Tire Rack about it; however, they were not willing to make the proper rings for my Advanti wheels, but rather sent me the shipping materials so that I could send back the wheels for a refund. Given that I'd just spent just over $150 to mount and balance the Advantis, and would have to spend the same amount to switch the tires back to the stock wheels, I decided to try and find a solution for the vibration myself.

I found a machine shop in Maryland who would CNC fabricate a set for me if I'd draw up a set of specs, which I did. However, simultaneously with this, my wife had a bad run in with a curb, cosmetically mangling my right rear wheel. Replacing it would only cost $70 more than a grind/refinish, so I did that* (keeping the abused wheel as a spare) and thought that since I had to change a wheel/tire anyhow, I'd try the sometimes effective careful cross torqueing of the wheels to the factory spec of 88 ft. lbs. (first to 50 ft. lbs. and then to 88 ft. lbs.) and see if that helped at all. For me at least, it helped a whole hell of a lot. Last weekend I briefly brought my R up to 120 MPH and it rode absolutely smoothly, outside of the normal feeling of bumps on the expressway. So I guess I don't have to return the wheels, nor buy some custom hub-centric rings. Knocks on wood.

I just thought I'd share that with you.

*No, I did not but the additional wheel from Tire Rack!
 
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