Ukraine: WAR Huh - What Is It Good For Absorootly Nothing

[cb1111]

Oh my..... Mysterious Explosions Throughout Russia, Belgorod Ammunition Depot on Fire (msn.com)

Such bad luck

Mystery fires at sensitive facilities compound Russia’s war challenge (msn.com)

 

[uglybastard]

I wonder if there are secret agents blowing stuff up. Spy movie shit.

 

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Russia's biggest state-run oil producer failed to sell 37 millions barrels of crude as companies self-sanction amid war in Ukraine (msn.com)

Russia Tries to Stage a Bust of Ukrainian Nazis, Accidentally Buys a Wig and The Sims Instead of SIM Cards (msn.com)

Gazprom ‘blackmail’ backfires as EU vows to end energy dependence on Russia (msn.com)

Newly re-elected Macron to toughen stance on Russia: Analysts (msn.com)

Five Points On Russia’s Threats To Expand Its War To Moldova (msn.com)

The Russian foreign ministry said Wednesday that it had banned entry to 287 British MPs in response to the UK's sanctions against Russian parliamentarians. (msn.com)

'Badge of honor' - Americans, British face Russian sanctions; Moscow cuts off gas to Poland, Bulgaria: Live Ukraine updates. (msn.com)

Carl Bildt on Twitter: "Remarkable exchange. And shows that tensions are building up in over the high losses in the war it has started. https://t.co/wOoGGhxty5" / Twitter

 

[cb1111]

I wonder if there are secret agents blowing stuff up. Spy movie shit.

Nawww, all coincidence....

From the article:

"The fact that so many fires have broken out at key locations in such a short period is “quite suspicious,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, chairman of the Silverado Policy Accelerator think tank in Washington. However, he added, it is “really impossible to tell at this stage.”

There are explanations other than sabotage, Alperovitch said. Accidental fires are not unusual in Russia, which has a reputation for poor maintenance, and Western sanctions are making it harder to secure spare parts for vital machinery.

Arestovych doubts Ukraine was involved in the fires at the defense-related facilities and suggested that Russian officials are setting fires to cover up evidence of corruption."

 

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Russian deputy PM hints at struggles facing top lender Sberbank (msn.com)

Germany won’t give in to Russian ‘blackmail' | Watch (msn.com)

How Moldova, with a population smaller than Los Angeles, is accepting more Ukrainian refugees per capita than any other country (msn.com)

Russia Unable to Fight Another War After Catastrophic Military Losses (msn.com)

The 'beginning of the end' for Putin began 'some time ago,' and the Ukraine war 'speeds up his demise,' top Navalny aide says (msn.com)

Milley: don’t let Russia get away ‘cost free’ with Ukraine invasion (msn.com)

The U.S. is finally pushing back on Russia, says former CIA officer | Watch (msn.com)

Germany casts off post-WWII qualms to send Ukraine heavy weapons (msn.com)

Russia-Ukraine War's Mounting Death Toll: Latest Estimates Suggest Russian Troops Have Been Hit Harder (msn.com)

Five Chinese Companies Have Suspended Business in Russia (msn.com)

Putin issues new threat to countries intervening in Ukraine | Watch (msn.com)

This is important because a resolution will speed aid Poland agrees to work demands of air traffic controllers (msn.com)

In the interest of being "fair and balanced" (????) Glenn Greenwald on Russia-Ukraine: What about border dispute justifies US risking annihilation of the planet? (msn.com)

A port city, a steel cage, a palace: The steps that made Putin 'the richest man in the world' (msn.com)

Russian provinces bordering Ukraine report series of blasts (msn.com)

Silenced by poison, bullets, jail: Navalny, Nemtsov and more Putin critics (msn.com)

'Pure fantasy': US diplomat on Russia's Kherson referendum | Watch (msn.com)

US: Ukraine war 'screams' need to reject Russian energy (msn.com)

Russia to cover budget deficit with rainy-day fund in 2022, Finance Minister says (msn.com)

As NATO Weighs Nuclear War Risk, U.S. Security 'Assurances' Upset Ukraine (msn.com)

Russian Economy Crumbling as Officials Reveal Inflation Set to Soar to 20% (msn.com)

UN: Safety concerns at Russian-controlled nuclear plant a 'red light blinking' (msn.com)

Atomic agency: Danger signs at ‘occupied’ nuclear site in Ukraine (msn.com)

Canada looks to sell off Russian oligarchs' assets (msn.com)

Explosions as Ukraine Drone Spotted 140 Miles Into Russia's Territory (msn.com)

White House preparing to ask Congress for 'massive' Ukraine aid package, officials say (msn.com)

Russia sees its oil output falling by up to 17% in 2022 (msn.com)

That's assuming that there are streets left What's in a name? Ukraine plans to rename streets linked to Russia (msn.com)

 

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And why aren't we warning of a lightning fast response if Putin doesn't get his war criminals out of the Ukraine? Putin warns against outside intervention in Ukraine (msn.com)

Russia’s retaliation on gas raises stakes for U.S. (msn.com)

Damn, and I really wanted to visit Siberia UN tourism body chief says Russia quitting the organisation (msn.com)

What Nestlé Is Doing To Help Its Employees In Ukraine (msn.com)

Don't we have a member here who sells boats? Seized Russian Yachts May Soon Be on the Auction Block (msn.com)

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky invited to 2022 G20 summit (msn.com)

The economic war against Russia is getting hot (msn.com)

A new return to the USSR (msn.com)

UN chief and Russia's Putin agree on key Ukraine evacuation (msn.com)

Should we send Viagra? Putin’s performance anxiety (msn.com)

Mystery of early Russian failures in Ukraine explained with new revelations of US intelligence help (msn.com)

Abcarian: The tentacles of Putin's propaganda reach my doorstep in Venice Beach (msn.com)

'More than half' of howitzers provided by US have arrived in Ukraine (msn.com)

Russia claims Ukrainian military carried out attack on armory on its soil | Watch (msn.com)

Ukraine’s Artillery Might Be Winning The War With Russia (msn.com)

Mariupol steel plant endures Russian attacks as mayor issues plea to rebuild (msn.com)

Von der Leyen Calls Russia's Gas Decision 'Blackmail' | Watch (msn.com)

In Ukraine, destroyed Russian tanks are the newest roadside attraction (msn.com)

'Of Course' Putin Would Use Nuclear Weapons, Former Trump Adviser Says (msn.com)

 

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Looters in California have nothing on these guys Russia's 'champion looter' sends almost 500 kg of stolen goods home to his wife: report (msn.com)

 

[golfdave]

If you have a spare 10mins read this..first hand account of civilians being captured & forcibly extradited into Russia, tortured, beaten etc...

Only now are some actual reports coming out, of a bigger situation that has been hinted at for a few months now!..

War in Ukraine: Ukrainians deported to Russia beaten and mistreated - BBC News

 

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...U?ocid=&cvid=0dfdabc2034a43c0b69627d4224a8aa4

Ukraine’s Forces Get Boost From Arsenal of Old-Fashioned Artillery (msn.com)

How Russia is framing the war: Critical race theory, organ harvesting and Nazis (msn.com)

Putin's disinformation campaign aims to win Russian hearts and minds (msn.com)

Is Switzerland right to prevent the delivery of ammunition to Ukraine? (msn.com)

Fact check: Fake news thrives amid Russia-Ukraine war (msn.com) This one even fact checks one of the bits of disinformation that zricky was spreading in the other thread

Biden says it's 'irresponsible' for Russian leaders to make 'idle' comments about nuclear weapons (msn.com)

U.N. Chief Condemns War as 'Evil' Day After Meeting With Putin (msn.com)

Russia deployed trained dolphins to guard Black Sea naval base, satellite images show (msn.com)

Putin gas cutoff shakes up Europe at little cost to Kremlin (msn.com)

Russia's Gas Attack Could Paralyze These NATO Nations (msn.com)

German energy firm gives in to Russian rouble demand (msn.com)

Spain scrambles to stem storm over gas with supplier Algeria (msn.com)

Russia says pumping Ukraine with weapons is threat to European security (msn.com)

This Holocaust Remembrance Day, are we failing at 'never again'? (msn.com)

EU's Von der Leyen tries to woo India away from Russia (msn.com)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...id=EMMX&cvid=a8bf832c154f4873a4ce8350cda536df

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...id=EMMX&cvid=a8bf832c154f4873a4ce8350cda536df

Why neither Russia nor Ukraine wants to discuss the mystery explosions at strategic Russian facilities (msn.com)

Children caught up in chaos as Russia invades Ukraine (msn.com)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...id=EMMX&cvid=a8bf832c154f4873a4ce8350cda536df

Putin Must Be Stopped Once and for All (msn.com)

US and European officials are increasingly concerned that Russia's war on Ukraine could spread to other countries, report says (msn.com)

Ukraine | RAND

 

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Lend-Lease program passed this morning in the house. It had already passed in the senate previously so it's on the way to the president's desk.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-co...wo-era-lend-lease-program-ukraine-2022-04-28/

 

[golfdave]

Lend-Lease program passed this morning in the house. It had already passed in the senate previously so it's on the way to the president's desk.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-co...wo-era-lend-lease-program-ukraine-2022-04-28/

Or how the USA made money from WW2..(as some might say)...

Lend-Lease - Wikipedia
Marshall Plan - Wikipedia


Better tell Ukraine that the UK didn't manage to pay off all its debts & accrued interest under lend/lease or Marshall plan until December 2006....& one loan started in 1941 the other in 1948.......

No doubt the USA will get several nice bases in Ukraine...which will really upset Putin...."oh dear what a shame"....

Ukraine will need loads of help building back its military, & more importantly its infrastructure...& that will take at least 10years.....
......Just don't like countries "making loads of money" out of it, but knowing the human race & corporate greed...

THB the Ex USSR countries ought to club together & form their own "block/group" as they are not 100% EU & don't want to be under Russia again (most anyway)...They can then have their own military strategy as a buffer to hold back Russia..& together they would be far better than having to rely on the say so of NATO, UN, or EU.

P.S. tried not to divert too much from topic...

 

[dtfd]

Or how the USA made money from WW2..(as some might say)...

Lend-Lease - Wikipedia
Marshall Plan - Wikipedia


Better tell Ukraine that the UK didn't manage to pay off all its debts & accrued interest under lend/lease or Marshall plan until December 2006....& one loan started in 1941 the other in 1948.......

No doubt the USA will get several nice bases in Ukraine...which will really upset Putin...."oh dear what a shame"....

Ukraine will need loads of help building back its military, & more importantly its infrastructure...& that will take at least 10years.....
......Just don't like countries "making loads of money" out of it, but knowing the human race & corporate greed...

THB the Ex USSR countries ought to club together & form their own "block/group" as they are not 100% EU & don't want to be under Russia again (most anyway)...They can them have their own military strategy as a buffer to hold back Russia..& together they would be far better than having to rely on the say so of NATO, UN, or EU.

P.S. tried not to divert too much from topic...

Don't forget the UK still had loans it was paying to the U.S. from the first world war as well. The first half of that century transferred a WHOLE lot of wealth from Europe to the U.S.

The rebuilding of the country after all this will of course provide plenty of opportunities, both for good people and....less than good folks.

 

[golfdave]

One of the things about this "war" is that it will, & is, hitting the oligarchs in Russia...these business empires have been built up in the past 30yrs.. ..& their discontent is starting to leak out...how much longer before Putin is overthrown is anybody's guess, but it'll be interesting to watch the massive fight for control, especially when the the war goes "south"...well it has already hasn't it?!...

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...updates-12541713?postid=3806348#liveblog-body

 

[golfdave]

Again another long read...but a must if you want to know from first hand accounts of the kidnap, extradition, torture, beatings etc. that the Russians have done to ordinary Ukrainian civilians..

A Ukrainian father's terrifying journey to a Russian prison and back - BBC News

 

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Everyone Is Starting to Admit Something Frightening About Ukraine (msn.com)

'Ramp up' military production to help Ukraine, urges UK foreign minister (msn.com)

Russian TV Hosts Discuss Nuclear Strikes on U.K, France, Germany (msn.com)

Russian strike targets Kyiv shortly after UN chief meets with Zelenskyy: Live Ukraine updates (msn.com)

Opinion: Why May 9 matters to Putin (msn.com)

Russia admits striking Kyiv during UN chief's visit (msn.com)

Putin could use Russia's Victory Day on May 9 against Ukraine | Watch (msn.com)

Russian troops appear to be learning from their mistakes and making more progress in eastern Ukraine, though still face logistical problems, US says (msn.com)

Ukrainian attacks bring war home to Russia, fraying civilian nerves (msn.com)

A growing number of European countries are signaling they have enough energy to stop relying on Russia (msn.com)

Cracks emerge in Russian elite as tycoons start to bemoan invasion (msn.com)

Pentagon spokesman shows anger over Putin and alleged Russian atrocities in Ukraine (msn.com)

Russia makes last-minute bond payment to avoid default (msn.com) Putin blinked

Russia does not consider itself at war with NATO, blames Kyiv for talks deadlock - agencies (msn.com) and again?

Standing up to the bully might just work. Give him nothing and don't let him save face

Amid Hardening Western Resolve, Signs of Russia’s Stalling in Eastern Ukraine (msn.com)

Austria energy firm mulls Russia rouble demand (msn.com)

Russian Territory Under Attack as Ukraine Shells Border Checkpoint—Official (msn.com)

Taking the fight to Russia (msn.com)

Former senior UN official says it's 'humiliating' that Russia bombed Kyiv when the secretary general was visiting the city (msn.com)

The Russians Got Caught Faking A TB-2 Drone Shoot-Down (msn.com)

Russian forces reportedly came close to capturing Zelenskiy during first hours of invasion (msn.com)

Russian forces paying high price for limited territory gains, says UK (msn.com)

Russians 'behind schedule' in Donbas: Pentagon (msn.com)

Vladimir Putin’s military chief moves towards war zone to try to boost Russian advances on Donbas (msn.com)

Ukraine War Live: Fuel Shortages to be Solved in a Week, Ukraine Says (msn.com)

West Ramps Up Ukraine Aid as Expectations About War's Outcome Shift (msn.com)

NATO scrambled jets over Baltic and Black seas over Russian aircraft (msn.com)

Special Report-How military technology reaches Russia in breach of U.S. export controls (msn.com)