Ukraine: WAR Huh - What Is It Good For Absorootly Nothing


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I can’t imagine being tossed down range against a near-peer after 8yrs from discharge… even after 2wks of refresher. Fuck that noise.
I think about it, but I can’t imagine from the Russian soldier’s perspective. I can’t imagine going to a war that I didn’t want, to fight a fight I didn’t want. Morale must be shit. I wonder what the level of support for the war truly is, from within the ranks?


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I'm sure war protesters and draftees sent to fight will flee or surrender even faster than the regular military has been.

Putins only play is nuclear weapons and I don't think the military will allow a preemptive strike. They have families too.


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I'm sure war protesters and draftees sent to fight will flee or surrender even faster than the regular military has been.

Putins only play is nuclear weapons and I don't think the military will allow a preemptive strike. They have families too.
Fleeing gets them shot, surrendering probably gets them a real meal - something they haven't had since they got called up.

Anybody had a Russian MRE? We might complain about our MREs, but think a C-ration (from that era) that has been in storage the entire time. Many Russian MREs have things moving inside and makes even the worst US MRE taste like a gourmet meal.


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Fleeing gets them shot, surrendering probably gets them a real meal - something they haven't had since they got called up.

Anybody had a Russian MRE? We might complain about our MREs, but think a C-ration (from that era) that has been in storage the entire time. Many Russian MREs have things moving inside and makes even the worst US MRE taste like a gourmet meal.
Yeah I saw some media of a deserted camp and all the gear they left. I saw they left their food and thought that was kind of strange, then realized it was bad enough to leave behind.


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Anybody flip flopping?

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Is there a significance to the fact that the buses picking up the draftees have black curtains?

Russian families' tearful goodbyes as Putin mobilizes reservists to Ukraine - YouTube

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Puck it

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I can’t keep up with most of this, but was pretty surprised about the Snowden citizenship. Pretty sure he’s fucked.


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Thank you for making me practice my terribly rudimentary German.
Let me see if I can paste the translation before my 1215 call - awful Google translation

The researcher had close ties to Putin's Defense Ministry. According to the MAI, Gerashchenko, who was still working as a consultant, was immediately dead. It is said to have been an accident.
"Professor Anatoly Nikolaevich Gerashchenko died as a result of an accident. We offer our condolences to his family and friends. His death is a colossal loss for the MAI and the scientific community," the institute's press department said. The 73-year-old spent most of his life working for mai, which develops technologies for space travel and is closely linked to the Russian Ministry of Defense.

He was a recipient of the Russian Medal of Honour for Services to the Fatherland and has written 50 publications during his professional career before retiring as head of MAI in 2015 and working as a consultant ever since.
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Ivan Peschorin (Image: Corporation for the Development of the Far East and the Arctic)
Ivan Peschorin
(Image: Corporation for the Development of the Far East and the Arctic)
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while smoking Previously, in early September, the chairman of Russia's second-largest oil producer Lukoil, Rawil Maganov, died after falling from a hospital window. Also this death was not completely clarified, allegedly he fell out of an open window while smoking. Another Lukoil top manager had also died a few months earlier under mysterious circumstances.
Rawil Maganov with Russian President Vladimir Putin (Image: Lukoil)
Rawil Maganov with Russian President Vladimir Putin
(Photo: Lukoil)
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