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Ukraine: WAR Huh - What Is It Good For Absorootly Nothing

dtfd

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I am nobody's buddy.
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Chogokin

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So how long can the US keep (afford) sending over arms? This can potentially be a long war.
 

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i got bored and started playing this mobile phone game called state.io where you essentially invade neighboring territories and try to overtake enemy territories to "win" rounds. i wonder if vladdyboi thinks that is how easy it would be to just magically re-establish the soviet empire
 

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‘They Deceived Us at Every Step’: Troops Say Russia’s War Is in Shambles (msn.com)

EU takes major step toward Russian oil ban, new sanctions (msn.com)

Although there is no need for an off-ramp. Former oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky on a potential Russia-Ukraine 'off-ramp' | Watch (msn.com)

Russia bars Japanese prime minister and 60 officials from entry (msn.com)

Why Russian oil is so sticky for Germany (msn.com)

Are sanctions against Russia working? (msn.com)

Central American, Caribbean blocs condemn attack on Ukraine (msn.com)

Who Will Pay For Ukraine's Marshall Plan? | Opinion (msn.com)

Russian cinemas showing pirated Hollywood movies to beat sanctions (msn.com)

Ukraine says Russia is trying to increase tempo of eastern offensive (msn.com)

Slovakia’s PM: If Ukraine fails we will be next | Watch (msn.com)

Israeli President Condemns Russia’s Foreign Minister For Spreading Anti-Semitic Lies, Seeks Apology (msn.com)

Steven Mnuchin calls Putin's Ukraine invasion a 'giant miscalculation' (msn.com)

Russia's largest shipping group forced to sell up to one-third of its ships to repay loans ahead of a Western sanctions deadline, report says (msn.com)

Belarus Prepares Troops as Ukraine Fears Putin Will Declare All-Out War (msn.com)

or not Russia denies it plans to formally declare war in days (msn.com) does that mean that they will informally declare war?

but the again Western officials think Putin may formally declare war on Ukraine on May 9 — Russia's Victory Day — making his 'special military operation' bloodier (msn.com)

Vladimir Putin Has Run Out of Options To Win Ukraine War—Analyst (msn.com)

Live updates | Hungary won't support banning Russian oil (msn.com)

Zelenskyy to Fox News: Russia is 'following the concept of Goebbels' with Nazism claims (msn.com)

600 civilians died in March theater bombing in Mariupol; Zelenskyy says Russian advance halted: Live Ukraine updates (msn.com)

Russian State TV Banned in 27 Countries Amid Nuclear Attack Backlash (msn.com)

Will Lavrov's anti-Semitic remarks push Israel off the fence? (msn.com)

Russia pounds Ukraine, targeting supply of Western arms (msn.com)

Russian troops are storming the last Mariupol stronghold 2 weeks after Putin said the assault would be too dangerous for his troops (msn.com)

Putin Ally Warns Russia May Use Concentration Camps for Enemies, 'No Mercy' (msn.com)

Uh-oh. Now we're looking at a the modern crusades if Russia declares war on the Vatican. Looking at the way the Russian army has been doing, the Swiss Guard ought to be able to hold them off until the Vatican can join Nato. Russian Church Warns Pope Francis After Comments on Powerful Bishop (msn.com)

The Story of Putin's 'Miracle' Cross in His Own Words (msn.com)

Russia Says It Will Target NATO Weapons Supplies to Ukraine | Watch (msn.com)

Ukraine Retakes Villages Near Kharkiv, Easing Pressure on Battered City (msn.com)

One of Russia’s Most Heinous War Crimes in Ukraine Was Worse Than We Thought (msn.com)

The Ukranians ought to be able to beat the Soviets with their black magic Russian Media Accuse Ukraine of Using 'Black Magic' as Invasion Falters (msn.com)

Drone footage shows how Russians destroyed one Ukrainian town in savage battle (msn.com)

U.S. Officials Warn of New Nightmare as Putin Hits Peak Desperation (msn.com)

Live updates | Commander: 'Bloody battles' at steel mill (msn.com)

and this is what happens when you don't go through msn for a link Ukraine War: As Putin Gets Desperate, U.S. Should Remember Pearl Harbor - Bloomberg

Kremlin Calls Reports Of May 9 War Declaration ‘Nonsense’—But The U.S. And U.K. Believe Putin Has Something Up His Sleeve (msn.com)

Top US general reveals the 'worst thing the Russians did' before the Ukraine invasion (msn.com)

Ukraine's Zelensky spoke to Israeli PM about 'scandalous' Russian remarks (msn.com)
 
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Sparky589

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So how long can the US keep (afford) sending over arms? This can potentially be a long war.
Interestingly the great limiting factor at the moment is less funding, and more just the inability of industry to supply the quantities requested by Ukraine. We've sent over about a third of our inventory of Javelin's and a quarter of our Stinger's. I know we're all sick and tired of hearing about the supply chain issues, but there's an interesting parallel with the defense contractors and automotive OEM's. Both rely on technically outdated chipsets for their designs, which means securing production, and in particular expanding production is something industry isn't willing to scale to. Nobody wants to invest in opening a fab on an outdated die size for a bespoke weapon system that's only going to be in demand for goodness knows how long. Sure there's always the defense production act, but it would still take a significant period of time to spool up the new lines.
 

shovelhd

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Interestingly the great limiting factor at the moment is less funding, and more just the inability of industry to supply the quantities requested by Ukraine. We've sent over about a third of our inventory of Javelin's and a quarter of our Stinger's. I know we're all sick and tired of hearing about the supply chain issues, but there's an interesting parallel with the defense contractors and automotive OEM's. Both rely on technically outdated chipsets for their designs, which means securing production, and in particular expanding production is something industry isn't willing to scale to. Nobody wants to invest in opening a fab on an outdated die size for a bespoke weapon system that's only going to be in demand for goodness knows how long. Sure there's always the defense production act, but it would still take a significant period of time to spool up the new lines.
I wouldn't call them "outdated". Every digital logic function doesn't require a Core i9, but density and complexity is where the profits are. Nobody is going to start a fab to make PLC's and 8/16/32 bit processors without subsidies and/or production guarantees. However, that's where the quantity demand is, and it comes from everywhere.
 

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Ukrainians are good at the game of "Battleships"..

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...updates-12541713?postid=3842815#liveblog-body

Putin humiliated as Ukraine claims 409ft frigate 'sunk by missile' - ‘most important ship' (msn.com)

"The Admiral Makarov is said to have been struck by anti-ship missiles while it was in waters off the coast of Odessa. Rescue ships and aircraft have reportedly been sent to the area and are being tracked by US surveillance drones. "OSINTdefender", an open source intelligence monitor, tweeted: "It's seeming more and more likely that the claims about the Russian Frigate Admiral Makarov being stuck by Ukrainian Anti-Ship Missiles off the Coast of Odessa are true.

The 409-foot Admiral Makarov is one of the most important ships at the disposal of the Russian Black Sea fleet."



Remind me again...this is a land war & the opposition has no Navy?........:unsure:........Not going so well eh Putin??.... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Ukrainians are good at the game of "Battleships"..

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...updates-12541713?postid=3842815#liveblog-body

Putin humiliated as Ukraine claims 409ft frigate 'sunk by missile' - ‘most important ship' (msn.com)

"The Admiral Makarov is said to have been struck by anti-ship missiles while it was in waters off the coast of Odessa. Rescue ships and aircraft have reportedly been sent to the area and are being tracked by US surveillance drones. "OSINTdefender", an open source intelligence monitor, tweeted: "It's seeming more and more likely that the claims about the Russian Frigate Admiral Makarov being stuck by Ukrainian Anti-Ship Missiles off the Coast of Odessa are true.

The 409-foot Admiral Makarov is one of the most important ships at the disposal of the Russian Black Sea fleet."



Remind me again...this is a land war & the opposition has no Navy?........:unsure:........Not going so well eh Putin??.... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
you're misunderstanding.

you see Russia has ALREADY sunk the entire Ukrainian fleet. That's why Ukraine has 0 ships and Russia had to lose 2 ships to do it.

Whats that? How many ships did Ukraine start the war with now that they have 0?

Off to the gulag with you!
 

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you're misunderstanding.

you see Russia has ALREADY sunk the entire Ukrainian fleet. That's why Ukraine has 0 ships and Russia had to lose 2 ships to do it.

Whats that? How many ships did Ukraine start the war with now that they have 0?

Off to the gulag with you!
didn't the Ukrainian navy get absorbed when Crimea happened?
 

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you're misunderstanding.

you see Russia has ALREADY sunk the entire Ukrainian fleet. That's why Ukraine has 0 ships and Russia had to lose 2 ships to do it.

Whats that? How many ships did Ukraine start the war with now that they have 0?

Off to the gulag with you!

didn't the Ukrainian navy get absorbed when Crimea happened?


Just a wiki page (I know.. :rolleyes: )....

Ukrainian Navy - Wikipedia

Yes they lost most when the USSR split...then they got a few more...then those were impounded by Russia, Then Russia sent some old stuff to Ukraine, which Ukraine sent back as they were useless...then more stuff was captured when Russia took Crimea... .& the only proper ship they (Ukraine) had they scuttled at the start of the current war..

They do have some small cutters etc.

"On 27 September 2018, the former United States Coast Guard ships Drummond and Cushing were formally transferred to Ukraine after their retirement from US service"


.....so in general terms "ships what ships?"..........I think their entire fleet could fit inside one of the UK's new aircraft carriers!!....:ROFLMAO:
 
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