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TVS and Cobb - DQ 250

PLF8593

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Philly
Car(s)
19 Alltrack 6MT
  1. I don't notice clamping pressure as the driver as long as it is adequate, but TVS clamping pressure is better than all others?
  2. How much faster does TVS shift gears? The DSG already shifts fast to me, if TVS shifts a hundredth of a second faster than my Stratified tune then I'd never be able to detect the difference.
  3. Overall reliability? How is TVS being determined to be more reliable versus EQT, Strat, APR, etc?
  4. Record setting history - Is the assumption that because they did well in the past everything they ever do is great?

You’re also annoying as fuck lol. TVS tuned cars win world records. I’ll leave it at that
 

wlfpck

Ready to race!
Location
United States
I think he's more laughing at the guy using that TVS tune. I've spent some time on these forums and have never heard of it. Why do people choose these random ass tunes?

TVS is a huge name oversea. While they are not big in the US, they are a big name. If I remember correctly, they pioneered the DQ500 swap. They also have upgrade packages that are just more than a DSG tune.
 

RTFM

Ready to race!
Location
Troy, NY
You’re also annoying as fuck lol. TVS tuned cars win world records. I’ll leave it at that
1. To add on to this, the clamping pressure is hard to explain, but completely different. Their new website is great, but their old website used to contain way more information. Up to Stage 2+, they do like any other TCU tune and scale the TCU and enable different features, which is why you can do it at home. Stage 3 and 4 take a completely different approach and rewrite new calculations to the TCU, which makes it a way more involved process, hence needing to go to a dealer.
2. Shift time is hard to measure for a driver, so eh.
3. Reliability is a hard one to measure compared to others because you rarely hear of a failed clutch pack, let alone one caused by the tune.
4. And the record setting history has been across a lot of platforms, including MQB, so in this case it means something.

And as stated above, they did pioneer the DQ500 swap, which is a solid achievement.
 

launchd

Drag Racing Champion
Location
New York
Car(s)
2023 M3LR, 2021 A7
Your response is pedantic. He obviously wasn’t implying that a 3rd party tuner would know MORE about a transmission than the OEM manufacturer of it. He meant that no tuner in the world has the extensive R&D SPECIFICALLY aimed at DSGs that TVS has, which should be obvious in the context of a conversation regarding which DSG tune is the best.

"...have the most extensive knowledge of dsg transmissions on the entire globe..."

Do you know how to comprehend English? I'll let you re-read what he said.

As a side note, APR has a working relationship with Borgwarner. I'm willing to bet APR has much more access to and knowledge of Borgwarner DSGs compared to TVS. I'm not saying APRs tune is better, I'm just stating a fact - flame me if you want.
 

launchd

Drag Racing Champion
Location
New York
Car(s)
2023 M3LR, 2021 A7
Also, because I'm honestly interested, can anyone point me to some world record cars running TVS tunes?
 

PLF8593

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Philly
Car(s)
19 Alltrack 6MT
"...have the most extensive knowledge of dsg transmissions on the entire globe..."

Do you know how to comprehend English? I'll let you re-read what he said.

As a side note, APR has a working relationship with Borgwarner. I'm willing to bet APR has much more access to and knowledge of Borgwarner DSGs compared to TVS. I'm not saying APRs tune is better, I'm just stating a fact - flame me if you want.

Again, you’re pedantic. Part of communication is being capable of making what’s called “intuitive leaps.” Understanding g what a person MEANS, vs the semantic content of what they SAID. I was a philosophy major bud you’re not gonna get anywhere with me lol
 

launchd

Drag Racing Champion
Location
New York
Car(s)
2023 M3LR, 2021 A7
Again, you’re pedantic. Part of communication is being capable of making what’s called “intuitive leaps.” Understanding g what a person MEANS, vs the semantic content of what they SAID. I was a philosophy major bud you’re not gonna get anywhere with me lol

The biggest part of communication is choosing your words correctly. His statement reads as it reads.
 

launchd

Drag Racing Champion
Location
New York
Car(s)
2023 M3LR, 2021 A7
As a general question, who creates the factory tune, Volkswagen or Borg Warner?

The software is mainly developed by IAV with Borgwarner and Volkswagen working collaboratively with them.
 

GTI_Owner

Go Kart Champion
Location
USA
Car(s)
2016 GTI
1. To add on to this, the clamping pressure is hard to explain, but completely different. Their new website is great, but their old website used to contain way more information. Up to Stage 2+, they do like any other TCU tune and scale the TCU and enable different features, which is why you can do it at home. Stage 3 and 4 take a completely different approach and rewrite new calculations to the TCU, which makes it a way more involved process, hence needing to go to a dealer.
2. Shift time is hard to measure for a driver, so eh.
3. Reliability is a hard one to measure compared to others because you rarely hear of a failed clutch pack, let alone one caused by the tune.
4. And the record setting history has been across a lot of platforms, including MQB, so in this case it means something.

And as stated above, they did pioneer the DQ500 swap, which is a solid achievement.

Thanks.

Even if I were interested in the TVS tune it looks like I'd be driving to central america to have it installed at the "nearest" dealer, no thanks. 😲
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Location
Phoenix
Car(s)
2018 SE DSG
Thanks.

Even if I were interested in the TVS tune it looks like I'd be driving to central america to have it installed at the "nearest" dealer, no thanks. 😲

Someone else posted that there is 2 dealers on the east coast.
 

RTFM

Ready to race!
Location
Troy, NY
Someone else posted that there is 2 dealers on the east coast.
One is in NYC and one is down south (Florida maybe?). A place in NC is going through the screening process too
 

GTI_Owner

Go Kart Champion
Location
USA
Car(s)
2016 GTI
Someone else posted that there is 2 dealers on the east coast.

I contacted TVS and asked about East Coast dealers, the response was that all dealers are on their webpage and if the dealer locator doesn't show one near me, then there isn't one near me. :(
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Location
Phoenix
Car(s)
2018 SE DSG
I contacted TVS and asked about East Coast dealers, the response was that all dealers are on their webpage and if the dealer locator doesn't show one near me, then there isn't one near me. :(

I dont know how bad you want their tune but change your location to another state on the east coast to see if there really are any dealers.
 
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