25mm RSB and 2.5F/2.0R camber helps out. My car is definitely setup to lean towards under steer (which I don’t mind for track driving tbh, makes it a bit safer to drive hard) but I can induce liftoff oversteer pretty easily when needed.How does 8k/5k not understeer terribly?
8k (456 in/lb) and 5K (285 in/lb) is very mild, and I would argue, too little rear spring.How does 8k/5k not understeer terribly?
It wouldn't be that bad except for two things.That's...stiff...
I guess it makes sense for a ST car, and probably a reason I don't want to have a ST car...lol
Why? It's barely different from what you suggested yourself.
OIC, but for autocross, you would still want the rear toe out, surface grip depending.I think you misunderstood, I think you're right that 375/600 would be the right choice and would allow me to keep the car steerable and get some rotation without a crazy alignment that eats tires.
Agree with David. I know we're talking about keeping things street-able, but I want to add to this.I really think GTI owners should get off the "get a rear bar first thing" band-wagon. The issue is with the front of the car, not the rear.
I can theoize why you got the test results you did, but did you ever test toe-out on a stock rear bar?I think there is merit to the idea but in the confine of GS with limited knobs, saving front stiffness doesn't seem to help at least from easy to test things. We tested rear bars, from less stiff to a lot stiffer A-B-A on T&T course with 2 drivers and we find both time and preference was on the stiffer bar. At the end of my time with the car we've definitely got to the point we can take some rotation out of the car to make it faster. Combination between alignment, fat rear bar, damper tuning and tire pressure can get there.
If I have a STH build though I'd definitely get more front stiffness back in the car but I don't think I would be too afraid of still bias rear roll stiffness if I can...