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Street Touring Hatchback (STH) discussion/setup
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Not a great test, because it was raining and mid 40's, but my co driver and I laid down some really good runs yesterday. Him 4th pax overall, me 6th pax overall. 1 and 2 in class, but was just the two of us. Lol.
Full tread depth V730's did really well in the rain, I was surprised. I had to choose between wear limit RE71R's with 100 runs on them, my Falken FK510's and new V730's. I think I made the right choice. They were surprisingly good.
For reference, top pax was a GT4 that's nationally competitive and we were 3 seconds back raw on a 50 to 60 second course.
Loving the konis, they were perfect for these conditions.
Next steps install the intercooler sitting in my office, right next to the 353 rear springs and offset bushings that need to be installed.
Full tread depth V730's did really well in the rain, I was surprised. I had to choose between wear limit RE71R's with 100 runs on them, my Falken FK510's and new V730's. I think I made the right choice. They were surprisingly good.
For reference, top pax was a GT4 that's nationally competitive and we were 3 seconds back raw on a 50 to 60 second course.
Loving the konis, they were perfect for these conditions.
Next steps install the intercooler sitting in my office, right next to the 353 rear springs and offset bushings that need to be installed.
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MonkeyMD
Autocross Champion
Wish some of you better drivers were in Texas area.
Don't know how you all get top 5 overall.
I am usually 35-40 out of 120 pax
Got 1st in class yesterday..... Out of 1, but was 46th raw, 35th pax overall.
The Golf R that used to be in STH, but is now in xsa was 43.3 and i was 43.9, so feel like my pace is not far off.
Don't know how you all get top 5 overall.
I am usually 35-40 out of 120 pax
Got 1st in class yesterday..... Out of 1, but was 46th raw, 35th pax overall.
The Golf R that used to be in STH, but is now in xsa was 43.3 and i was 43.9, so feel like my pace is not far off.
Locally I'm happy if I'm top 20 pax, new England region is dumb competitive
jmblur
Autocross Champion
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- Massachusetts
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- 2017 Golf R
Makes me feel a little better about my times, ha!
jmblur
Autocross Champion
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- Massachusetts
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- 2017 Golf R
Anybody play around with Swift Assist springs? https://www.swiftsprings.com/products/assist-helper-springs/
Can't get low enough in the rear with the 8" 110N/mm springs without losing preload at full droop, so was going to a 7" spring and add a helper. Saw these and they make a fair amount of sense - seems like they'd make potholes better handled and maybe increase traction on inside rear tire when it's in droop (assuming the rear sway bar doesn't hold it up out of droop).
I guess there is a possibility that when you remove some load from the wheel you decrease spring rate significantly so you might lose a bit of traction before you get into significant droop if the spring rate of the helper is too high.
For reference, golf r rear corner weights are roughly 750/680, so all of the options would be fully compressed at rest (as intended).
Can't get low enough in the rear with the 8" 110N/mm springs without losing preload at full droop, so was going to a 7" spring and add a helper. Saw these and they make a fair amount of sense - seems like they'd make potholes better handled and maybe increase traction on inside rear tire when it's in droop (assuming the rear sway bar doesn't hold it up out of droop).
I guess there is a possibility that when you remove some load from the wheel you decrease spring rate significantly so you might lose a bit of traction before you get into significant droop if the spring rate of the helper is too high.
For reference, golf r rear corner weights are roughly 750/680, so all of the options would be fully compressed at rest (as intended).
Mini7
Autocross Champion
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I run a 7” and helper in the rear. Had the same issue with my 12k 8” swift spring
xXDavidCXx
Autocross Champion
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- AZ
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- 2017 GTI SE DSG
I run helper springs on short/stiff main springs.
jmblur
Autocross Champion
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- Massachusetts
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Is that a helper or an assist? Looks thick for just a helper. Assuming you're running a 7" spring now?
Mini7
Autocross Champion
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- 2017 GTi Sport PP
I need to check. I know I got an assist spring for the front. Going to go with 9k 7” up front. I cannot remember what I got for the rear. It may also be an assist spring.
The main spring in picture is a 7”.
The main spring in picture is a 7”.
xXDavidCXx
Autocross Champion
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Either style of spring (assist/helper) will do the same job.
Also keep in mind that often the rear is droop limited by the shock length, so I see the assist as less of a benefit on the GTI.
Also keep in mind that often the rear is droop limited by the shock length, so I see the assist as less of a benefit on the GTI.
So my experiment with slotting the strut tower to get more negative camber is over, and if your using standard diameter front springs, it just doesn't work well.
After last event, I started to get a clunck in the right front. The spring was contacting the strut tower and caused the top strut nut to come loose.
The whole time during this experiment, I'd get terrible noises when turning the wheels, like the bushings were binding.
Today. I tightened the strut nuts and backed off on the camber I'd dialed in with the slotting, it's as quiet as stock now, no awful noises.
Went from -2.2 to -1.8, so lost -0.4. I should gain that back with the offset bushings.
After last event, I started to get a clunck in the right front. The spring was contacting the strut tower and caused the top strut nut to come loose.
The whole time during this experiment, I'd get terrible noises when turning the wheels, like the bushings were binding.
Today. I tightened the strut nuts and backed off on the camber I'd dialed in with the slotting, it's as quiet as stock now, no awful noises.
Went from -2.2 to -1.8, so lost -0.4. I should gain that back with the offset bushings.
odessa.filez
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- 2016 GSW 1.8tsi auto
So are you in XSA (I am)? If so, you"re/we're pretty screwed wrt PAX. Std Golf has no place to go for PAX.
Have fun anyhow.
MonkeyMD
Autocross Champion
I'm actually in sth, but should be in xsa because of my turbo which actually hurts more than helps. If I was ever going to go outside my local area, I'd go XSA.
Oh damn... And my 6spd transmission swap. Forgot about that.
My logic is if another car in the same class has the same part, it should be legal. Is38, gti tranny