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Some SUPER good StopTech deals...if you aren't picky about the color

reverend_sean

Ready to race!
Location
Pittsburgh
I have been researching StopTech BBKs a bit and I stumbled on a StopTech clearance sale at BuyBrakes.com. They have ST-41 kits for $770 and ST-60 kits for $1860! Use CarId to search the p/n to see a great image and explanation of the specific kits.

Please note that all the ST-41 kits, and half of the ST-60 kits come with non-coated rotors. Also, I have no idea how many they have for sale...the sales person just kept saying "not many left".

BuyBrakes.com sale page - https://www.buybrakes.com/stoptech-brake-kits-sale-on-overstock-big-brake-kits

StopTech 2018 catalog (13-14 pages down gives you the explanation on how to read StopTech part numbers) https://www.carid.com/images/stoptech/info/pdf/catalog.pdf
 

tWat

New member
Location
SoCal
I just ordered the ST40 355mm kit in yellow from them. Weird thing is that they state these are overstock items but after the purchase they notified me that the kit needed to be assembled and would not ship for 3 weeks. Seems a bit odd as I would assume if they are selling them so cheap it's because they are old inventory that they have to heavily discount to move. Either way I can wait 3 weeks for such a good deal :p
 

GTI Jake

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Charlotte, NC
I just spent a little time reading reviews and I hope they don’t give you guys the run around. Seems like it’s not uncommon for them to say “they’ll ship tomorrow” for weeks on end
 

Navi

Drag Race Newbie
Location
BK/NYC/Hamptons
These are most likely drop shipped from stoptech. Stoptech usually had the caliper and rotors in stock but they manufacture the vehicle specific mounting brackets and rotor hat per order so it is normal for it to take 3 weeks for stoptech kits.
 

MonkeyMD

Drag Race Newbie
I have been researching StopTech BBKs a bit and I stumbled on a StopTech clearance sale at BuyBrakes.com. They have ST-41 kits for $770 and ST-60 kits for $1860! Use CarId to search the p/n to see a great image and explanation of the specific kits.

Please note that all the ST-41 kits, and half of the ST-60 kits come with non-coated rotors. Also, I have no idea how many they have for sale...the sales person just kept saying "not many left".

BuyBrakes.com sale page - https://www.buybrakes.com/stoptech-brake-kits-sale-on-overstock-big-brake-kits

StopTech 2018 catalog (13-14 pages down gives you the explanation on how to read StopTech part numbers) https://www.carid.com/images/stoptech/info/pdf/catalog.pdf
Looks like only yellow calipers in the st40. All colors except red in st41.
That being said for an aggressively driven daily driver, would the st40 be that much of an upgrade over st41?To put into perspective I am still on stock Golf 288mm brakes and I get brake fade on back roads after a few turns.
Finally, for some reason websites list compatibility for GTI brakes as not being compatible with Golf, but I'm 99% sure they are. Can someone confirm.

Edit: one more question. You BBK people, what do you use for spare tire? The Golf R 18" one. Doubt stock one would work.

Edit: there's more colors available for GTI and also some trophy series.

Best way is to search 893 or 897 which is car model
 
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MonkeyMD

Drag Race Newbie
Bit the bullet and ordered a set of ST40 with blue calipers and slotted 355mm rotors. $1250 shipped. ETA is 3.5 weeks. Hopefully it's not a case of too good to be true because they retail for $2400. And hopefully they fit behind my 18" wheels.
 
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jmason

Ready to race!
Location
Frederick, MD
You can download a template to check clearance. Check the Stoptech website. I need to use spacers on the front with my Brembo 330mm BBK with the Austin wheels. The Stoptech caliper is very close to the same size.

As for the flat tire question, I assume that the spare must go on the back. If you have a flat of a front tire, you would have to move one of the rears to the front and then put the spare on the rear.
 

tWat

New member
Location
SoCal
Bit the bullet and ordered a set of ST40 with blue calipers and slotted 355mm rotors. $1250 shipped. ETA is 3.5 weeks. Hopefully it's not a case of too good to be true because they retail for $2400. And hopefully they fit behind my 18" wheels.
I bought the same kit in yellow and they said the same thing about the 3.5 week lead time. I'm guessing at this point that Stoptech is actually running the sale since we now know for sure this is not some old stock sitting on some retailer's shelf. Maybe they have a new line of calipers coming out that are going to replace the long in the tooth ST series?

I'm in the process of buying a trophy kit for my miata from them for $700!!!

In regards to your question about the spare we might need to carry a small spacer with extended lugs to clear the caliper. I guess we will figure it out 3.5 weeks :p
 

MonkeyMD

Drag Race Newbie
You can download a template to check clearance. Check the Stoptech website. I need to use spacers on the front with my Brembo 330mm BBK with the Austin wheels. The Stoptech caliper is very close to the same size..
Yeah. For some reason,I can't download the template. Figured I have 18x8 et46 Audi wheels and oem wheels tend to have less concavity for better clearance.


As for the flat tire question, I assume that the spare must go on the back. If you have a flat of a front tire, you would have to move one of the rears to the front and then put the spare on the rear.
Duh. I guess I had a brain fart.
 

MonkeyMD

Drag Race Newbie
I bought the same kit in yellow and they said the same thing about the 3.5 week lead time. I'm guessing at this point that Stoptech is actually running the sale since we now know for sure this is not some old stock sitting on some retailer's shelf. Maybe they have a new line of calipers coming out that are going to replace the long in the tooth ST series?
Even if they come out with something new, can't imagine a massive improvement over these.

I was torn between yellow and blue, don't think silver or black was available. Going to try to get the rears powder coated blue.
 

Crild

Go Kart Champion
Location
Florida
RIP nothing available for the golf R. Do the GTI ones fit on the R seeing as they are different part numbers?

edit: only gti stuff left is 380mm
 
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tWat

New member
Location
SoCal
RIP nothing available for the golf R. Do the GTI ones fit on the R seeing as they are different part numbers?

edit: only gti stuff left is 380mm
There is a ton of kits still available from what I can see that will fit your R. You just need to cross reference all the part #'s listed for a mk7 gen car on the list. The ones I ordered weren't even listed as a specific fit for a GTI but after the sales guy called Stoptech they confirmed that the ones I wanted would in fact fit a GTI. If I would have asked him first to he would have said they don't have anything left for GTI fitment.
 

Crild

Go Kart Champion
Location
Florida
There is a ton of kits still available from what I can see that will fit your R. You just need to cross reference all the part #'s listed for a mk7 gen car on the list. The ones I ordered weren't even listed as a specific fit for a GTI but after the sales guy called Stoptech they confirmed that the ones I wanted would in fact fit a GTI. If I would have asked him first to he would have said they don't have anything left for GTI fitment.
Checked again and via stoptech part # only thing left that would fit are 380mm kits

Edit: will the kits for a base golf or a3 fit just fine on a R? I don't wanna be shit outta luck if I order a super cheap kit and it doesn't fit
 
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MonkeyMD

Drag Race Newbie
As far as I know and per Yip, Golf,GTI,R will fit Any mk7. I went with the Golf kit because they had it and it was cheaper than the GTI kit. But any should work.

Search for 893 or 897 or 896. That's the number after the first 2.
If you want to narrow down further, you cab add ".xxxx" where xxxx is the model of the kit so 896.4700 would be Golf R ST40 kit with 355mm rotors

Edit: just searched and these are available. There are 23 GTI skus available. Didn't realize that when I started the list. Anyway, you get the idea.


83.897.4700.21 - Golf, ST40, 355mm slotted, blue calipers
83.897.4700.22 - Golf, ST40, 355mm drilled, blue calipers
83.897.4700.81 - Golf, ST40, 355mm slotted, yellow calipers
83.897.4700.82 - Golf, ST40, 355mm drilled, yellow calipers
83.897.6700.21 - Golf, ST60 (maybe ST60, def 6 piston caliper), 355mm slotted, blue calipers
83.897.6700.22 - Golf, ST60 (maybe ST60, def 6 piston caliper), 355mm drilled, blue calipers
83.897.6700.21 - Golf, ST60 (maybe ST60, def 6 piston caliper), 355mm slotted, black calipers
83.897.6700.22 - Golf, ST60 (maybe ST60, def 6 piston caliper), 355mm drilled, black calipers
 
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Crild

Go Kart Champion
Location
Florida
I figured that it wouldn't matter for any mk7 chassis. I did reach out to stoptech for confirmation tho as well.

The prices are too good to be true so I'm super skeptical with those deals.
 

2015WhiteGTI

Go Kart Champion
This is an absolute bargain!

I have the ST40 (4-piston) caliper with the 328mm two-piece rotor.
They are super light and a stellar upgrade over the non-PP brakes.

The nicest thing about the 328mm rotor is they are very friendly for wheel choice. They even fit under the stock Austins with only a 5mm spacer.

I've used Stoptech BBKs for over 10 years on the road and track and have never left me down, ever.
The Stoptechs also have a TON of pad choices and it literally takes about 5 minutes per side to change them (with practice and I've done it a lot myself).

If you're thinking about it, jump on this.
 

Crild

Go Kart Champion
Location
Florida
Just got off the phone with stoptech. The 897 golf kit will fit the 896 golf R but it won't be optimal. Piston sizing is 30,34 vs 32,34. He was asking the engineer who tested them on his personal golf R next to him. Piston size is different due to fwd vs awd & more weight per the engineer he brought on the phone.

So will it be better than stock, hell yes. Will it preform.as optimally as possibly, no it won't.

The difference is $1000 in the 897 vs 896 kit for me and I track 4-6 times a year. I feel like the $1000 savings is justified but I hope someone else can chime in.
 

tWat

New member
Location
SoCal
Just got off the phone with stoptech. The 897 golf kit will fit the 896 golf R but it won't be optimal. Piston sizing is 30,34 vs 32,34. He was asking the engineer who tested them on his personal golf R next to him. Piston size is different due to fwd vs awd & more weight per the engineer he brought on the phone.

So will it be better than stock, hell yes. Will it preform.as optimally as possibly, no it won't.

The difference is $1000 in the 897 vs 896 kit for me and I track 4-6 times a year. I feel like the $1000 savings is justified but I hope someone else can chime in.
So get the ST60 6 piston kit then. There is much more to it than just the piston sizing. Hell, I would put a Golf 328mm kit on my R over the stock single piston sliding caliper setup. The weight savings combined with a much stiffer caliper that will have more consistent feel over a high temperature range, has more cost effective pad options that can be swapped out much easier is enough incentive alone.

I'm only saying this because you mentioned track days. For a street driven car it's all overkill no matter what kit were talking about. For the track though, brakes, tires and alignment will make the most difference in times. I've driven my track EVO on blown dampers in hot ass weather that was causing the ECU to pull timing faster than my best times on non blown suspension in cool weather on stock'ish brakes. Having the confidence to bury the car deep into the braking zones is just about the single most important thing to me for any type of motorsports event.
 

Crild

Go Kart Champion
Location
Florida
So get the ST60 6 piston kit then. There is much more to it than just the piston sizing. Hell, I would put a Golf 328mm kit on my R over the stock single piston sliding caliper setup. The weight savings combined with a much stiffer caliper that will have more consistent feel over a high temperature range, has more cost effective pad options that can be swapped out much easier is enough incentive alone.

I'm only saying this because you mentioned track days. For a street driven car it's all overkill no matter what kit were talking about. For the track though, brakes, tires and alignment will make the most difference in times. I've driven my track EVO on blown dampers in hot ass weather that was causing the ECU to pull timing faster than my best times on non blown suspension in cool weather on stock'ish brakes. Having the confidence to bury the car deep into the braking zones is just about the single most important thing to me for any type of motorsports event.
So the 26-28-32 piston vs 30-34-34 is the part I'm wondering about. The engineer said it's cool to run it, it just wouldn't be optimal.

They are cool with giving me 20% off so that takes the correct part # R kit down to like $2400 something vs the $1600ish for the "golf/a3" kit.

Or $2100 vs $1250 for the st40 kit.

Only problem is all the kits the only color is blue which I really don't like as I was wanting black and I know the blue will distort color like crazy

I don't know enough about brakes to determine if that's a big issue or not.
 

tWat

New member
Location
SoCal
We need an engineer to chime in but just looking at it if the stock R brakes use a single 60mm piston and the base golf Stoptech kit uses an average of 3 28mm pistons I have to think that the apply pressure is greater than the stock caliper due to the Stoptech pistons having a greater cross sectional surface area.

Then add in the increased rotor size from 340mm to 355mm and brake torque should increase by noticeable amount regardless of which caliper you use if pad size and compound are similar.

Then........ add in the stiffness of the fixed caliper vs the sliding caliper.

At near full retail or slightly discounted pricing I would consider other options or might even stay with the stock brake setup. With half off + discounting I couldn't resist.

Again, for a street driven car I think just about any aftermarket fixed caliper multi piston kit is overkill unless every drive to work is a time attack session like mine :p

For a an occasional track day or any type of motorsports event I would take the base golf Stoptech kit over the R brakes just for the consistency of brake pedal feel that you would gain from the Stoptech setup even if stopping power was not increased.
 
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