Selling car, remove APR tune?

[eajr]

Private party sell it, you'll get more for doing so anyways. And be honest - inform the buyer it's tuned (or has been) so there's no surprises if they take it to the dealer for a warranty repair. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone who wants a tuned GTI

Next August my 2015 will officially be out of warranty, but either way not looking to sell it, I was just curious. I probably wont sell the car for a while

 

[caleb.mk7]

When I traded in my GTI, the dealership had me sign a document that agreed that the vehicle had been not modified for race.

So you might be committing fraud if you trade it in and not tell anyone... ?

 

[eajr]

When I traded in my GTI, the dealership had me sign a document that agreed that the vehicle had been not modified for race.

So you might be committing fraud if you trade it in and not tell anyone... ?

Wow never heard of that before! What was the outcome?

 

[snobrdrdan]

When I traded in my GTI, the dealership had me sign a document that agreed that the vehicle had been not modified for race.

So you might be committing fraud if you trade it in and not tell anyone... ?

Well yeah...if they ask you or you sign something, that's a different story....they have you by the balls there

If not...it's their fault for not asking, I guess?

 

[eajr]

Well yeah...if they ask you or you sign something, that's a different story....they have you by the balls there

If not...it's their fault for not asking, I guess?

So let's say you are selling the car to a dealer, previously tuned but now back to stock. They ask you to sign this agreement, but you explain that you were previously tuned. What would they say next?, are they less likely to buy it?

 

[JC_451]

If the language of whatever you might be signing asks if the car -is- modified.

That's different than asking if the car -was- modified.

If you returned it to stock you can tell them no it isn't modified, but you can't necessarily tell them it wasn't.

 

[jimlloyd40]

When I traded in my GTI, the dealership had me sign a document that agreed that the vehicle had been not modified for race.

So you might be committing fraud if you trade it in and not tell anyone... ?

Technically a tune doesn't mean that it's modified for racing. But I would still tell them to avoid any potential liability.

 

[XM_Rocks]

Definitely no benefit to telling a dealer it's tuned.

Except you might be liable if you don’t disclose it.

 

[JC_451]

Except you might be liable if you don’t disclose it.

Certainly true, although that's very unlikely. I'd think only the truly unlucky or unlikable could find themselves in litigation.

 

[jimlloyd40]

Certainly true, although that's very unlikely. I'd think only the truly unlucky or unlikable could find themselves in litigation.

That would be a very expensive penalty for not just telling them that it has a tune.

 

[XM_Rocks]

Certainly true, although that's very unlikely. I'd think only the truly unlucky or unlikable could find themselves in litigation.

I agree, but it would suck if it happened. Kinda why we wear seatbelts.

Especially if you lost and had to pay the legal fees of the other party.

That would be a very expensive penalty for not just telling them that it has a tune.

^ This. Besides, selling privately with full disclosure would net you more money.

If you’re going to mod a car it’s more work to remove items or sell.

Just a price you pay.

 

[snobrdrdan]

So let's say you are selling the car to a dealer, previously tuned but now back to stock. They ask you to sign this agreement, but you explain that you were previously tuned. What would they say next?, are they less likely to buy it?

Every car I've had that was tuned, I always put it back to the stock tune. But I wasn't signing anything saying it was modified or anything either...that signature (like the one guy said he had to do) could come back to bite you...if you lied

i.e. new owner takes it in for service and finds out it's TD1 and then goes after the dealer

 

[eajr]

So why not just tune back down to stock and then admitting to the dealer that it was previously tuned?

 

[caleb.mk7]

Wow never heard of that before! What was the outcome?

No TD1 and I had removed my JB4 so the vehicle was very stock.
No problems but an ECU flash would've been another story..

 

[Loopy]

If you flash back to stock (and it has not been previously flagged TD1 for some reason) then they can’t detect the flash And they have no reason to do a forensic examination. In most cases your car will disappear from the dealer to a wholesaler and never been seen again. A lot of the apocryphal TD1 stories are from people left the tune on their car during services (Including the RS7 guy).