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golfhappy

Ready to race!
Location
scotland
I'm with Hastings and they're ok with it. The exhaust is down as cosmetic as its only an aftermarket German GTI look tailpipe.
Interesting about VCDS flagging up on the flash counter i can play my ace card then as i did have to autoscan and reset my radar sensor a few times.
 

MrPotatoHead1

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Northumberland
I'm with Hastings and they're ok with it. The exhaust is down as cosmetic as its only an aftermarket German GTI look tailpipe.
Interesting about VCDS flagging up on the flash counter i can play my ace card then as i did have to autoscan and reset my radar sensor a few times.

Greenlight insurance, good price for insurance with a remap and all suspension and wheel modifications are free!
 

golfhappy

Ready to race!
Location
scotland
I own mine, think if VW find out they'll start with dunking you like an 16th century witch then proceed to burn you at the stake....but it'll be ok they'll take the car back and sell it on!
he he he he
 

golfhappy

Ready to race!
Location
scotland
On a serious note over at the seat forum they tend to have DTUK tuning boxes with pcp. To me as long as you can take the map out prior to the service or warranty work you'll be ok.
 

MrPotatoHead1

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Northumberland
On a serious note over at the seat forum they tend to have DTUK tuning boxes with pcp. To me as long as you can take the map out prior to the service or warranty work you'll be ok.

Thats the thing they really are only going to find out if I took it in to vw for a service... heard some horrendous stories on seat forum of someone who got into major bother with finance company though
 

golfhappy

Ready to race!
Location
scotland
Well no according to Rappy, Carbon chip does like a bluefin/shark hand set so you can pop the cars standard map back on prior to the service. And according to Nick at carbon VCDS actually increases the flash counter x1 if you've scanned the car.
If they query it say someone did an autoscan on the car?
I know i hit a fox and it knocked my radar sensor off and i was getting a message up on the mfd. I did several autoscans and reset the fault code....flash counter must be at least x8
 

Chris@Revo USA1

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Location
Summit Point, WV
Yeah it's a bit of a gamble, Nick at Carbon Chip said the TD1 isn't actually flagged by the car but by the dealer if they think anything is wrong...

Flash counter does increment by one every time you plug a VCDS or software in, think I will map it, now just need to find insurance company that will allow modifications as I called AXA last night and they don't insure cars with modifications.

Well no according to Rappy, Carbon chip does like a bluefin/shark hand set so you can pop the cars standard map back on prior to the service. And according to Nick at carbon VCDS actually increases the flash counter x1 if you've scanned the car.
If they query it say someone did an autoscan on the car?
I know i hit a fox and it knocked my radar sensor off and i was getting a message up on the mfd. I did several autoscans and reset the fault code....flash counter must be at least x8


I am in our US office so I honestly don't know who this person is, really don't care who this person is and nothing I'm about to say has anything to do with them possibly being a competitor (I use that loosely).

There is a lot of really dumb stuff being said by this Nick person, if they believe some of the things they are saying they should not be touching your vehicles, it is actually kind of scary.


TD1 can be flagged several ways.

The main and most common way unless you have some really bent out of shape dealer and you slept with the techs sister or something is the system will automatically detect that non stock software is in the vehicle. The dealer has no way to control this at all, they are not manually setting it simply connecting to the diagnostic computer at the dealer checks the file in the ecu and if it does not match flags the car. Allegedly but not confirmed (by me personally) even having factory software but a different revision could flag your car. This flag CAN be removed by having the dealer flash the car to stock and rescanning it, it will pop up not flagged when they recheck the system. The main reason for this is if they had no way to remove the flag they couldn't certify used cars anymore :). This has been in the documentation from VW since before the system was even turned on.

If your dealer thinks you have software they are not supposed to flag the car since the system did not detect it (some don't auto detect those they can), if you have other modifications to the drive train such as an intake or exhaust, this is when they can manually set the flag. This flag can be harder to have cleared because you dealt with a crappy dealer who felt this was something that should be done and you now have to convince them to undo it. This is pretty rare.

TD1 DOES NOT VOID YOUR WARRANTY!!. While it may result in warranty denial it does not void it. The TD1 flag is meant to inform a dealer that modifications are present. Two parts here, first being to alert them that things might be different and the diagnostic process may require a different approach. The second is that it means that Vw/Audi now know that this car might have parts not covered so they are telling the dealer a head of time that their warranty claim if they put one through better be solid and documented that the part was actually faulty. You CAN have parts related to the powertrain on a TD1 flagged car warrantied. Most denials I have seen are actually dealers afraid of being audited and having to pay Vw/Audi back for the warranty claim. They skipped the actual diagnostic process and simply denied the work, warranty was not void. The exception being Audi of Canada, when TD1 came about they went full stupid with TD1 and refused to work on vehicles flagged. Honestly it was appalling and had I lived in Canada would have tried to do a class action against them for the crap they pulled and I HATE law suits especially class actions.



Now for this VCDS crap I read several times. There is a very very very very key word in flash counter, that is FLASH. VCDS scans can not, do not and will not EVER increase your flash counters. It is accessing modules in 100% the same way that the dealer tool does. I am astonished that a "tuner" is the source of this misinformation.


Unless of course the x1 is just a math equation here and you mean that the counter was 2 and it increases by x1 which would come out to 2 ;)

+1 I can assure you does not occur.
 

MrPotatoHead1

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Northumberland
Straight from the email from Carbonchip - The "TD1 Flag" is actually a flag on the internal VW car database not physically (or electronically) in the vehicle itself and can be added to a cars chassis number manually by a dealer for a number of reasons:

Basically if they feel they have sufficient evidence that the vehicle has been tuned/modified they can add the TD1 eg. physical evidence the ECU has been opened, excessive flash counter value, File verification via the GEKO server, Boost and injection quantity logging, Tuning box related DTC's etc.

Once the TD1 is added, any dealer query on that particular chassis number will show that there is a TD1 flag stored against that vehicle, and thus any drive train related warranty claim could be called into question depending on the dealer.

So prettttty much what you've just said fella...
 

vance1

New member
Location
scarborough
Has anybody had a Revo remap on the mk7 GTD , I thought Revo were well regarded? There's a dealer near me who has a good reputation, I haven't heard any reviews from anyone who's had it done recently.
 

Chris@Revo USA1

Ready to race!
Location
Summit Point, WV
So prettttty much what you've just said fella...


What you originally stated they claimed was completely false and I clarified it. If you had the actual information then I suggest referencing that going forward and not making up what they allegedly claimed since it makes that company look bad and does them a disservice.

Well if he still said scanning a car with VCDS increases burn counters then there are still serious issues with that line of thought.
 

MrPotatoHead1

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Northumberland
What you originally stated they claimed was completely false and I clarified it. If you had the actual information then I suggest referencing that going forward and not making up what they allegedly claimed since it makes that company look bad and does them a disservice.

Well if he still said scanning a car with VCDS increases burn counters then there are still serious issues with that line of thought.

Misinterpretation, I'm not an expert on remapping at the end of the day.:rolleyes:
 
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