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Question about new shocks/struts and body roll

GFGTI

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
NY
Aw man i just pulled the trigger on a set of B8's to pair with my H&R Sports. I believe I want that "on rails" feeling more.

Did I make the wrong decision or are the B8's suitable? I think the lowering springs + B8s will be a huge improvement over stock.
 

flipflp

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Ride
'16 Golf R DSG
Aw man i just pulled the trigger on a set of B8's to pair with my H&R Sports. I believe I want that "on rails" feeling more.

Did I make the wrong decision or are the B8's suitable? I think the lowering springs + B8s will be a huge improvement over stock.
See what it would take to swap to Koni Yellows instead. B8s aren't bad shocks, but they are what they are out of the box. With Konis you can at least tweak them to your liking, and they will be firmer even at the lowest setting.
 

uberdot

Ready to race!
Location
Orlando
Ride
2017 6MT
Aw man i just pulled the trigger on a set of B8's to pair with my H&R Sports. I believe I want that "on rails" feeling more.

Did I make the wrong decision or are the B8's suitable? I think the lowering springs + B8s will be a huge improvement over stock.
It's an improvement over stock for sure. The car definitely feels more planted and responsive but the lateral roll does feel more prevalent; especially with a passenger. Seems like B8s were designed for cars with upgraded RSBs.
 
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JD-1

Ready to race!
Location
06468
I have a APR rear sway bar with bilstein b8s, and vwr springs. I don't think I have more lateral body roll. My girlfriend sat in the car driving with me and mentioned she felt like the car was more composed then it previously was.
 

KevinC

Drag Race Newbie
Aw man i just pulled the trigger on a set of B8's to pair with my H&R Sports. I believe I want that "on rails" feeling more.

Did I make the wrong decision or are the B8's suitable? I think the lowering springs + B8s will be a huge improvement over stock.
Solid choice. B8's are made for use with lowering springs, and H&R Sports should be an ideal pairing.

Back to the OP - what springs are you running? Did you pair B8's with the stock springs? If so, that's an absolute mismatch. The correct Bilstein damper to pair with stock springs would have been the B6 or B4.
 

flipflp

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Ride
'16 Golf R DSG
Solid choice. B8's are made for use with lowering springs, and H&R Sports should be an ideal pairing.

Back to the OP - what springs are you running? Did you pair B8's with the stock springs? If so, that's an absolute mismatch. The correct Bilstein damper to pair with stock springs would have been the B6 or B4.
OP is running H&R Sports as well.

Just as a note, the only reason the B8s are recommended for lowering springs over the B6s is that they have shortened shock bodies. That keeps shock travel as normal as possible with a lowered ride height. A B6 is the same shock internally but with the same shock length as the factory shocks, at least for our cars.
 

uberdot

Ready to race!
Location
Orlando
Ride
2017 6MT
Back to the OP - what springs are you running? Did you pair B8's with the stock springs? If so, that's an absolute mismatch. The correct Bilstein damper to pair with stock springs would have been the B6 or B4.
B8s w/ Sports. Even crawled under to double check the PNs to make sure (again) — at least under the rear. The front is now a bit higher than with the stocks, but the stock mounts and shocks were totally blown. Brick roads + Sports + stock springs didn’t do me any favors lol.
 

Tooly

Ready to race!
I've had B8's with Eibach linear European springs (essentially the Bilstein B12 kit) for about 8 months now and I've been very happy with the combo. I'm still running the stock rear sway and wouldn't say there was an increase in body roll over stock. Car feels more planted through corners and of course a little stiffer than stock. I went the Bilstein route over Koni since I knew I'd never bother adjusting them and the the fact you needed to remove the rear shock to change the the damping.
 

Hammersticks

Go Kart Champion
Location
Bay Area, CA
Ride
'16 GTI, '18 e-Golf
It's not like the B8's are bad. The ride quality is better than Koni...they just don't offer flexibility. They make stiffer springs ride nicely though in my experience.

Anyway, uberdot, get an RSB and go from there. Definitely don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and appreciate the relative smoothness the B8's bring to marginal roads.
 

FlyingNugget

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Toronto, Canada
Did you come from having PP with the stock electronic adjustable dampening?

I have a non-PP car without the stock adjustable dampening.

I have had B8s + H&R sport springs + stock RSB for about a year, and have done 3 track days, and 20+ autocross events on this setup.

This is definitely not a stiff flat setup. From just my feeling, I would say about 25% stiffer/flatter than stock. While there is still considerable body roll, I wouldn't say it's something that is holding me back on the track, and I would say that there is less body roll compared to stock, for sure.
 
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