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fasttallguy

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Canada
18x8 et 35
18x8.5 et 40

are all flush.

225/40/18 tire for 8"
235/40/18 tire for 8.5" wheels

These are specs for a stock height.

If you want exact tire size and offset for a lowered car, ask me.

looking for your advice as I have toured this site for months

Golf R 2015-for Canada so waiting

want 19 x 8.5 rims et 45

will 245/35/19 rubber poke or be flush...like the idea of bit lower profile tire and wide as possible...no interest in stretch look at all

cheers
 

jjm51

Ready to race!
i have a question about spacers;

1. if just use the stock set-up of a gti and i add spacers front and back what does it do to the ride? better? worse? no difference? i would go with the minimal size to make sure no rubbing/etc.

2. i MIGHT drop my new car on vwr springs. and get some 18 x 8 neuspeeds. (sorry vmr! you are awesome and so are your wheels. just like the 1 particular neuspeeds i saw on a gti.). same questions as above in regards to ride with spacers; better? worse? same?

thanks for any replies. i have never modded a car in my life. and, i have been driving close to 40 years now. total newbie on this stuff...
 

the bruce

Go Kart Champion
Location
land
Car(s)
Golf GTI Mk.V 2008
I kinda got tired of people asking things like: What size spacers will make me flush? And, what offset will be the most flush? So......I have pictures and measurements.

The seemingly flat portion of the MK7 fenders is not straight up and down. It actually angles in toward the tires by a few millimeters.

In the pictures I have included measurements from the innermost portion of fender to the outermost portion, and measurements from the wheel rim/lip/edge that offset is based on to the outermost portion of the fender.

Your "data" is worthless without providing the current camber settings.

BTW, if you want your rear wheels flush, no need for spacers, at least not
with a common 8" wide ET45 wheel. Just reduce camber (and readjust toe).
 

ECS Tuning

Go Kart Champion
Location
Wadsworth, OH
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Andy
 

Sa-Gti2

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SA
I have a set of Eibach Pro springs on order and looking at a 19x9 ET35 wheel, wrapped in 225/35/19 tyres. Judging from the specs posted here, I may be in for a whole lot if rubbing!!
 

the bruce

Go Kart Champion
Location
land
Car(s)
Golf GTI Mk.V 2008
Right, you'll suffer from rubbing.

Get 8x19 or 8.5x19 ET45 (or ET48/50) wheels instead of that silly 9x19 ET35.

Even more 9" and 225 mm isn't a good match at all. 9" requires a 255 to 275 mm wide tire.


Anyway, in most cases spacers are obsolete on rear. Just reduce camber to the lowest permitted value.
Doing this will push the rear wheels out !!!
Remember, after lowering you'll need to have an alignment anyway.
 

Johnny Blaze

Go Kart Champion
Location
SFV 818
^ thats somewhat inaccurate, a 9" wheel is fine with a 225 tire, but would be recommended 235. the 35 et is quite flush, but also depends on tires and drop. Also the alignment is recommended after a couple miles usually i wait about 20-40 miles for the drop to settle.

I don't see those 19x9 et35 to rub either with 225 tires... thats not a big drop.. however it depends how it camber in the end.
 

the bruce

Go Kart Champion
Location
land
Car(s)
Golf GTI Mk.V 2008
^ thats somewhat inaccurate,
It's you who's highly incorrect. ;)


a 9" wheel is fine with a 225 tire,
this is a quite interesting opinion

Do you know anything about tires at all? NO car manifacturer would offer such a mad combination.


but would be recommended 235. the 35 et is quite flush, but also depends on tires and drop. Also the alignment is recommended after a couple miles usually i wait about 20-40 miles for the drop to settle.
I doesn't depend on anything. 9x19 ET35 will rub, period.



I don't see those 19x9 et35 to rub either with 225 tires... thats not a big drop.. however it depends how it camber in the end.
It doesn't make any sense to start a discussion about" is there any
chance with an insane camber of -4° to make it fit". Again, it will rub.
 

aussietanker

New member
Location
Sydney, NSW
ok ... so from what ppl have posted it sounds like the 18" is a good balance between comfort and handling? ... so that's what i might go with .. and so once i have decided that 18" is the go whats the next decision .. do these wheels also come in different widths or is there a "standard width"

as you might be able to tell, i have no idea about wheels n stuff, and am totally mechanically illiterate .. i have a 2014/15 Golf 90 TSI auto and want to change to something like the vw 18" Talladega or Cadiz alloy wheels ... or possibly the RAYS Volk GTP GT-P Forged Wheels ...

i also intend to use something like the H&R springs (or the blue vw ones) to lower the car slightly. I would also like to get that nice "flush look" ... will the ecs kit be necessary to achieve this on either of the wheels mentioned?

appreciate the advice
 

Johnny Blaze

Go Kart Champion
Location
SFV 818
Well im pretty educated when it comes to suspension wheels and tires, a 225 on a 9 fit quite fine, you must be new to VWs..or lowered VWs.

There is a guy on vortex running HREs flow forms, 19x9 et 35, with 225 tires...on coils with no rub. Not to mention there are multiple members running 18x9 wheels with 225 tires quite fine, i ran 17x9 with 215 tires on my mk5.
 

the bruce

Go Kart Champion
Location
land
Car(s)
Golf GTI Mk.V 2008
@ aussietanker:

There's lots of choice, but 8x18 ET45 is by far most popular on the Golf and its cousins.
And it's a no-brainer.
It does fit without any modifications with stock size 225/40 R18 tires, and because the
Mk.VII has a bit more space compared to Mk.V/Mk.VI even 235/40, at least if you do
the little screw mod. However, if you find a 8x18 ET48 or ET50, you're definitely fine.

There's another point worth mentioning: The wheel offset (eg ET45) does affect steering
geometry. Remember stock wheels are ET49 to ET51. For some reason it isn't a good
idea to go too far away from this.

If you're willing to spend some money on the wheels, consider lightweigt wheels like
OZ Allgeritas. The benefit is both better ride comfort, acceleration and handling. Even
more important: Get the best tires you can find. Never skimp on tires.



@ 2015GTI:

I'm new on VWs? Do a google search. :rolleyes:

Pardon me, but I don't care what idiots ride. There's still some difference between what
some do and what is sensible. You're telling what some do. I'm telling what is sensible.
Anyway, it doesn't help newbies if you tell them what mad people do. Most guys on here
expect trouble-free solutions. So don't "help" them to damage there cars.
 

Johnny Blaze

Go Kart Champion
Location
SFV 818
Don't be so sour my man, chill out, here is a 19x9 with 225 tires, fit quite nice and fine.



And its all different likes and views, some like the car lower, some don't. Some like fatter tires some don't.

Also you are saying to keep close to stock ET, is not always the case, the 45ET was optimal for mk5/mk6, the mk7 is bigger therefore you can go even lower and be completely fine. There are people running on here 19x8 et45 with a 8mm spacer on the rear and 225 tires, so again it really depends what you want to achieve.

I've had numerous wheels and different offsets, and this generation is more forgiving. If you're not new to VW you should already know this.
 
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