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tigeo

Autocross Champion
I miss the days where you could toss Rotella T6 in anything...
No reason to use Rotella over a Euro 40 grade, zero. Why use an inferior product? I've never gotten the Brotella thing in modern gassers when the Euro stuff is so much better with approvals like Porsche A40...litterally a test that simulates track beating.
 

hans611

Lost
Location
Miami
Car(s)
'16 Golf R 6MT
In Liquimoly's own words, Leichtlauf is the better of the two. But neither is anything special compared to the cheaper 5w40 options (Castrol, M1, Pennzoil, etc.)

I wouldn't use any of them again, they're opaque with their spec sheets, my first motor always had consumption issues with Leichtlauf (until it blew up), and you can get other mid-tier options at walmart for $5/qt.

So in the Molygen Product Page, where they say that they recommend this oil with engines that require the specifications, etc.. they haven't actually received the spec approvals...?

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tigeo

Autocross Champion
So in the Molygen Product Page, where they say that they recommend this oil with engines that require the specifications, etc.. they haven't actually received the spec approvals...?

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Correct. Amsoil HPL Redline are all like this.
 

tmw2442

Autocross Newbie
Location
Approved NPC storage contanier
Car(s)
Mk7 R
They pay test their formula, that it meets the spec from the manufacture, but they don't pay the "tax" (to the manufacturer), to be able to put the manufacturer official seals/endorsements on the their product label....
 
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geokilla

Go Kart Champion
Location
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Car(s)
2018 VW GTI DSG
No reason to use Rotella over a Euro 40 grade, zero. Why use an inferior product? I've never gotten the Brotella thing in modern gassers when the Euro stuff is so much better with approvals like Porsche A40...litterally a test that simulates track beating.
What they meant is that they miss the days when they can use any oil they wanted as long as it met the weight requirement and that it's conventional or synthetic. Nowadays, Euro vehicles has all these crazy specs like VW502 or VW 508 or whatever whereas with the Japanese, Korean, and American automakers, they just need 0W8 or 0W16 or whatever as long as it meets ILSAC or is API certified.

I get it and it's frustrating being limited to only a certain type of oil. For 99% of the people, regular synthetic oil is good enough as most people are just sitting in bumper to bumper traffic if they live in a large city like myself.
 

tigeo

Autocross Champion

kyLman

Go Kart Champion
Location
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Car(s)
2015 Golf
No reason to use Rotella over a Euro 40 grade, zero. Why use an inferior product? I've never gotten the Brotella thing in modern gassers when the Euro stuff is so much better with approvals like Porsche A40...litterally a test that simulates track beating.
Oh there is a great reason to use Rotella, everything worked well with it: My BMW 3 series, Crotch Rocket, Lawn Mower, door hinges, etc
 

tigeo

Autocross Champion
Oh there is a great reason to use Rotella, everything worked well with it: My BMW 3 series, Crotch Rocket, Lawn Mower, door hinges, etc
Define "works well with it" vs. any other oils.
 

tigeo

Autocross Champion
What they meant is that they miss the days when they can use any oil they wanted as long as it met the weight requirement and that it's conventional or synthetic. Nowadays, Euro vehicles has all these crazy specs like VW502 or VW 508 or whatever whereas with the Japanese, Korean, and American automakers, they just need 0W8 or 0W16 or whatever as long as it meets ILSAC or is API certified.

I get it and it's frustrating being limited to only a certain type of oil. For 99% of the people, regular synthetic oil is good enough as most people are just sitting in bumper to bumper traffic if they live in a large city like myself.
It's not really crazy. The approvals are nice, they make it easy to know/understand which oil to use and what specifications/tests were done and what they mean for your engine vs. any ol' SAE grade of XYZ brand. It's not like these Euro oils with approvals are hard to find or get.
 

jay745

What Would Glenn Danzig Do
Location
Slightly Outside Chicago
Car(s)
Mk6 racecar, Tacoma
Define "works well with it" vs. any other oils.
The car didn't blow up, this oil is the best!







The reality is people shouldn't have an opinion unless they regularly send their oil in for an analysis.
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tigeo

Autocross Champion
The car didn't blow up, this oil is the best!







The reality is people shouldn't have an opinion unless they regularly send their oil in for an analysis.
/Thread
Yep.
 
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