Problem?
I dont have a problem, i drive a manual. I just cant understand that so many of you want that, just like i dont understand millions who wanted communism. Just because millions wanted it and still do it doesnt make it for me or right, have you considered that? Didnt expect this kind of “argument” from you. Why did you tune the car at all if you agree with everything those same engineers did?
I on the other hand use 1-2000rpm range to start rolling in 1st when i drop my clutch. Thats about the only time, otherwise im never below 2500.
At 25% throttle input im entering boost. So unless i like accelerating like a granny with 10-15% throttle input i would absolutely not wanna be in sub 2k rpm range when boosting. Dunno that my car would boost so low.. never tried. Call me crazy but i like to ride the powerband of my tuned car which is 3000-5500 rpm.. so i roll at 2800-3200rpm. Happens to equate nicely with limits and speeding too for me at 45mph and 55mph in 3rd and 4th respectively at ~3000rpm.
I said this in my previous reply to Ed and will say it again, the desire to have the car shift at or below 2000 rpm is limited to when pedal input is in the 5-10% range. This is just a touch over coasting, the lightest pedal input that gets the car moving, yes, accelerating like a granny. With more pedal input that shift point moves up.
The picture below illustrates the concept, though I'd prefer to see the lower end of the line raised a touch to around 1900 rpm.
Here's what the EQT tune did (v1.3) with the same shift:
As Ed mentioned, he aims to keep the minimum shift point around 2100-2200. I don't care for that and would rather have the shifting in the 5-10% range be around 1900 rpm.
I don't know that "so many" of us want the car to drive this way, I'm expressing what I like and what I've logged the stock tuning doing. I do like the shifting to be at a higher rpm than stock even at the low end, just not as high as what EQT is using as the minimum.
I'm very skeptical of the claims that Volkswagen designed the shifting logic in a way that lugs the engine, risks LSPI, and hurts fuel economy.