Stage2Sasquatch
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- Walled Lake Michigan
So you want to make your slow car fast? Tired of getting passed by V6 minivans? This thread is for you.
V1.0 11/23/15 (Original Version with lots of errors)
There’s always people asking how to and where to start modifying their car so I’m going to be compiling a thread of information and links to get people started. Firstly, what engine do you have? If you have a 2015/2016/2017 GTI then you have the Gen 3 2.0T TSI motor. This motor is the same for both PP and Non-PP cars. This guide will mainly focus on the 2.0T engine and not the 1.8T. In this thread I will talk about the different things you can do to your car and what effect it will have. I will also put a few examples (in no specific order) of parts under each subcategory. They are just simple examples and are in no way shape or form the best of each part type etc. If you have any questions ask below…
Once again THE EXAMPLE PARTS ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES ON THE MARKET, THEY ARE JUST EXAMPLES.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION: READ BEFORE CONTINUING
When you upgrade your downpipe, you will either need a tune or you will need to buy the 42DD 02 Spacer. If you do not have one of those you will throw a CEL (Check Engine Light). It will not affect any engine performance, but it will be annoying.
Tunes make a TON of power on these cars. Chances are you will eventually need to replace the clutch when tuned; yes, any tune. (Manual Transmission only).
Engine:
Tunes: Also known as “chips” even though that definition is outdated and incorrect. This is the best bang for buck when it comes to easy power gain with little/no modification. There are few main options for tuning and all of them offer tunes for bone stock cars to bigger turbo/full bolt-on cars. For the average enthusiast there is also “stages” of tunes, in which the tune will be tailored to a specific set of modifications not you individual car.
-Burger Motorsport (BMS): BMS hit the big leagues with their JB4 piggy-back tune for BMW’s. (http://burgertuning.com/jb_vw_stage_1_tuner.html) They make a Plug and Play tune called JB1 that is easy to easy and easy to take-off for warranty work. The JB1 is the first version of the later to be released JB4 which will have more tuning options. The systems come with difference maps that can be switched depending on what fuel and supporting modifications you have.
• JB1: Plug and Play tune. No mods necessary to install. User adjust-ability done through an optional cable.
• Map 0: Stock with complete pass through i.e. the JB1 does nothing
• Map 1: Less aggressive boost profile map, this supports 91 octane at the base boost setting as well as bolt ons. If higher octane is used the boost can be increased as well as with bolt ons. We found that with intake, dp and 93 the boost can be pushed to +5.5psi. The method of doing this is in the second picture below. A E35 ethanol mix has been tested with this map and its fully compatible to run at boost levels up to +5.5psi when complimented with FBO (full bolt on mods). For anything higher than +5.5psi race fuel is required.
• Map 3: Map three allows the JB1 to be the methanol controller working as a fail safe cutting boost if lack of meth flow is detected. You will require a Coolingmist FSB to get this working. A explanation on the settings will be given once we have decided which base map is used and how much extra boost when meth is flowing can be given.
• Map 6: User adjustable boost profile (see below) Active on units that ship 30.09.2015 and after.
(Information gathered from: http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10761)
-APR: Audi performance racing is a US based company that specializes in most VAG applications. (http://www.goapr.com/) APR tunes through the OBDII port. APR offers stages of upgrades:
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the top speed limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe is required.
• Stage 2+: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe and IS38 Turbocharger from a Golf R.
-Eurodyne: Eurodyne is a company that specializes in the VW/Audi tuning scene. They provide you with a powertap tool that allows you to flash your car in your own driveway. It is also the cheapest of the full tunes.
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: None. A tune for a bone stock car on 91 octane that removes the top speed limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 1.5: Modifications necessary: None. A 93 octane tune for a bone stock car.
• Stage 2: Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe is required.
• IS38 Tune: (Not Released yet).
-Revo Technik: Revo is a European tuning company that specializes in Volkswagen group and Ford group vehicles. They offer staged upgrades as well and they are basically similar to APR and Unitronic (http://www.revotechnik.com/). Tunes can be uploaded through the OBDII or you can purchase a SPS programmer which will allow you to change tunes on the go and tweak several parameters.
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the rev limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe and intake. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe and intake is required.
-Unitronic: Unitronic is a large tuning company specializing in the VAG platform. (https://www.unitronic-chipped.com/ecu-tuning/Volkswagen-GTI-20L-TSI-EA888-2015-2015-stage1) They offer staged tunes for our cars ranging from just a reflash to big turbo tunes. Tunes are done through the OBDII port.
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the rev limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 1+: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the rev limiter and increases boost and modifies timing. Same tune but for 93 Octane.
• Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe and intake. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe and intake is required.
• Stage 2+: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe, intake, and IS38 Turbocharger from Golf R.
-GIAC: Another tuner with over 20 years of experience with many different platforms. They offer stages a bit unlike the other major tuners. (http://www.giacusa.com/products/software/) Tunes are flashed through the OBDII port or a Flashloader can be purchased to changes tunes at your convenience.
• Stage Xplus: Modifications necessary: None. A tune for stock cars. (Note: Downpipe and intake is recommeded)
• Stage X2Plus: Modifications necessary: Intake, Downpipe, HPFP, inter-cooler. A tune for a nearly full bolt-on car.
There are many more tuning companies available to check out like: United Motorsports, Driver Motorsports, Nuespeed Power Module that I will update later.
Intakes: More air means more power and there is a wide variety of intakes available that will accomplish this. Our stock intakes actually flow quite well compared to other cars hence why an intake is not necessary for most of the “off the shelf tunes”, but more air is never a bad thing. Intakes are cheap and there are many to choose from but here’s just a couple to get you started.
-CTS (http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/CTS_MK7_Intake_GTI_GolfR_Golf-4745-0.html)
-Neuspeed (http://www.neuspeed.com/331/0/0/3118/651046-neuspeed-p-flo-air-intake-kit.html
- APR (http://www.goapr.com/products/intake_ea888_gen3_mqb.html)
Exhausts: For turbo cars there are two main sections that will be talked about with our applications (Cat-backs and downpipes). As the name suggests a downpipe is the section of exhaust that connects from the turbo to past the cats. Also as the name suggests a cat-back is the portion of exhaust that runs from behind the cats (hence cat-back) to the tips. On our cars 90% of the power gain will be had through changing of the downpipe. The stock cat-back flows quite well all things considered. The golden rule for exhausts on our cars is downpipe for power, cat-back for sound. (Note: Turbobacks are both combined AKA a full system)
-Downpipes: Here are just a few popular downpipe options ranging from 2.5-3.0 inches.
• CTS (http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/CTS_Turbo_MK7_GTI_Golf_Downpipe-4711-0.html)
• USP: (http://www.uspmotorsports.com/USP-3-Stainless-Steel-MQB-Downpipe-MK7-GTI-Golf-Audi-A3.html)
• Ebay (Will post link later)
-Cat-backs: Here are a few cat-back options.
• CTS (http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/CTS_Turbo_MK7_GTI_3_Cat_Back_Exhaust-4780-0.html)
• Unitronic: (https://www.unitronic-chipped.com/ecu-tuning/Volkswagen-GTI-20L-TSI-EA888-2015-2015-hwmk7gticatback)
• Ebay (Will post link later)
HPFP upgrade: Stands for high pressure fuel pump. I won’t get into the operation of a direct injection engine too much but basically there are two fuel pumps, a high pressure and a low pressure. For our engines the high pressure fuel pump has a really hard time flowing high rates of fuel at low RPM high load scenarios as well as high hp applications. A few different options exist, some being DIY internals and others being complete pumps. Not needed for most Bolt-on/IS38 setups.
• Autotech (https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Engine/Fuel/ES2973041/)
Water/meth: A lot of tuners offer a 100 octane “race gas” file. Problem is nobody is going to be normally running race gas in our cars as A. It’s expensive and B. It’s not a racecar. The list of benefits that a water/meth setup are vast but mainly you will see lower intake charge temps and will have the ability to advance timing. I.E. you can run the 100 octane file successfully with water/meth and 93 octane gas. There are few good options for this but it may require a good amount of install work and adjusting to get right but are extremely rewarding.
- There are a few main kits but before you buy W/M id recommend checking out this thread http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50805 which has all you need to know about water/meth with our applications.
V1.0 11/23/15 (Original Version with lots of errors)
There’s always people asking how to and where to start modifying their car so I’m going to be compiling a thread of information and links to get people started. Firstly, what engine do you have? If you have a 2015/2016/2017 GTI then you have the Gen 3 2.0T TSI motor. This motor is the same for both PP and Non-PP cars. This guide will mainly focus on the 2.0T engine and not the 1.8T. In this thread I will talk about the different things you can do to your car and what effect it will have. I will also put a few examples (in no specific order) of parts under each subcategory. They are just simple examples and are in no way shape or form the best of each part type etc. If you have any questions ask below…
Once again THE EXAMPLE PARTS ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES ON THE MARKET, THEY ARE JUST EXAMPLES.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION: READ BEFORE CONTINUING
When you upgrade your downpipe, you will either need a tune or you will need to buy the 42DD 02 Spacer. If you do not have one of those you will throw a CEL (Check Engine Light). It will not affect any engine performance, but it will be annoying.
Tunes make a TON of power on these cars. Chances are you will eventually need to replace the clutch when tuned; yes, any tune. (Manual Transmission only).
Engine:
Tunes: Also known as “chips” even though that definition is outdated and incorrect. This is the best bang for buck when it comes to easy power gain with little/no modification. There are few main options for tuning and all of them offer tunes for bone stock cars to bigger turbo/full bolt-on cars. For the average enthusiast there is also “stages” of tunes, in which the tune will be tailored to a specific set of modifications not you individual car.
-Burger Motorsport (BMS): BMS hit the big leagues with their JB4 piggy-back tune for BMW’s. (http://burgertuning.com/jb_vw_stage_1_tuner.html) They make a Plug and Play tune called JB1 that is easy to easy and easy to take-off for warranty work. The JB1 is the first version of the later to be released JB4 which will have more tuning options. The systems come with difference maps that can be switched depending on what fuel and supporting modifications you have.
• JB1: Plug and Play tune. No mods necessary to install. User adjust-ability done through an optional cable.
• Map 0: Stock with complete pass through i.e. the JB1 does nothing
• Map 1: Less aggressive boost profile map, this supports 91 octane at the base boost setting as well as bolt ons. If higher octane is used the boost can be increased as well as with bolt ons. We found that with intake, dp and 93 the boost can be pushed to +5.5psi. The method of doing this is in the second picture below. A E35 ethanol mix has been tested with this map and its fully compatible to run at boost levels up to +5.5psi when complimented with FBO (full bolt on mods). For anything higher than +5.5psi race fuel is required.
• Map 3: Map three allows the JB1 to be the methanol controller working as a fail safe cutting boost if lack of meth flow is detected. You will require a Coolingmist FSB to get this working. A explanation on the settings will be given once we have decided which base map is used and how much extra boost when meth is flowing can be given.
• Map 6: User adjustable boost profile (see below) Active on units that ship 30.09.2015 and after.
(Information gathered from: http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10761)
-APR: Audi performance racing is a US based company that specializes in most VAG applications. (http://www.goapr.com/) APR tunes through the OBDII port. APR offers stages of upgrades:
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the top speed limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe is required.
• Stage 2+: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe and IS38 Turbocharger from a Golf R.
-Eurodyne: Eurodyne is a company that specializes in the VW/Audi tuning scene. They provide you with a powertap tool that allows you to flash your car in your own driveway. It is also the cheapest of the full tunes.
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: None. A tune for a bone stock car on 91 octane that removes the top speed limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 1.5: Modifications necessary: None. A 93 octane tune for a bone stock car.
• Stage 2: Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe is required.
• IS38 Tune: (Not Released yet).
-Revo Technik: Revo is a European tuning company that specializes in Volkswagen group and Ford group vehicles. They offer staged upgrades as well and they are basically similar to APR and Unitronic (http://www.revotechnik.com/). Tunes can be uploaded through the OBDII or you can purchase a SPS programmer which will allow you to change tunes on the go and tweak several parameters.
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the rev limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe and intake. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe and intake is required.
-Unitronic: Unitronic is a large tuning company specializing in the VAG platform. (https://www.unitronic-chipped.com/ecu-tuning/Volkswagen-GTI-20L-TSI-EA888-2015-2015-stage1) They offer staged tunes for our cars ranging from just a reflash to big turbo tunes. Tunes are done through the OBDII port.
• Stage 1: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the rev limiter and increases boost and modifies timing.
• Stage 1+: Modifications necessary: none. A tune for a bone stock car that removes the rev limiter and increases boost and modifies timing. Same tune but for 93 Octane.
• Stage 2: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe and intake. A tune for a car with just an exhaust; Note: only downpipe and intake is required.
• Stage 2+: Modifications necessary: 2.75-3.0 inch downpipe, intake, and IS38 Turbocharger from Golf R.
-GIAC: Another tuner with over 20 years of experience with many different platforms. They offer stages a bit unlike the other major tuners. (http://www.giacusa.com/products/software/) Tunes are flashed through the OBDII port or a Flashloader can be purchased to changes tunes at your convenience.
• Stage Xplus: Modifications necessary: None. A tune for stock cars. (Note: Downpipe and intake is recommeded)
• Stage X2Plus: Modifications necessary: Intake, Downpipe, HPFP, inter-cooler. A tune for a nearly full bolt-on car.
There are many more tuning companies available to check out like: United Motorsports, Driver Motorsports, Nuespeed Power Module that I will update later.
Intakes: More air means more power and there is a wide variety of intakes available that will accomplish this. Our stock intakes actually flow quite well compared to other cars hence why an intake is not necessary for most of the “off the shelf tunes”, but more air is never a bad thing. Intakes are cheap and there are many to choose from but here’s just a couple to get you started.
-CTS (http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/CTS_MK7_Intake_GTI_GolfR_Golf-4745-0.html)
-Neuspeed (http://www.neuspeed.com/331/0/0/3118/651046-neuspeed-p-flo-air-intake-kit.html
- APR (http://www.goapr.com/products/intake_ea888_gen3_mqb.html)
Exhausts: For turbo cars there are two main sections that will be talked about with our applications (Cat-backs and downpipes). As the name suggests a downpipe is the section of exhaust that connects from the turbo to past the cats. Also as the name suggests a cat-back is the portion of exhaust that runs from behind the cats (hence cat-back) to the tips. On our cars 90% of the power gain will be had through changing of the downpipe. The stock cat-back flows quite well all things considered. The golden rule for exhausts on our cars is downpipe for power, cat-back for sound. (Note: Turbobacks are both combined AKA a full system)
-Downpipes: Here are just a few popular downpipe options ranging from 2.5-3.0 inches.
• CTS (http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/CTS_Turbo_MK7_GTI_Golf_Downpipe-4711-0.html)
• USP: (http://www.uspmotorsports.com/USP-3-Stainless-Steel-MQB-Downpipe-MK7-GTI-Golf-Audi-A3.html)
• Ebay (Will post link later)
-Cat-backs: Here are a few cat-back options.
• CTS (http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/CTS_Turbo_MK7_GTI_3_Cat_Back_Exhaust-4780-0.html)
• Unitronic: (https://www.unitronic-chipped.com/ecu-tuning/Volkswagen-GTI-20L-TSI-EA888-2015-2015-hwmk7gticatback)
• Ebay (Will post link later)
HPFP upgrade: Stands for high pressure fuel pump. I won’t get into the operation of a direct injection engine too much but basically there are two fuel pumps, a high pressure and a low pressure. For our engines the high pressure fuel pump has a really hard time flowing high rates of fuel at low RPM high load scenarios as well as high hp applications. A few different options exist, some being DIY internals and others being complete pumps. Not needed for most Bolt-on/IS38 setups.
• Autotech (https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Engine/Fuel/ES2973041/)
Water/meth: A lot of tuners offer a 100 octane “race gas” file. Problem is nobody is going to be normally running race gas in our cars as A. It’s expensive and B. It’s not a racecar. The list of benefits that a water/meth setup are vast but mainly you will see lower intake charge temps and will have the ability to advance timing. I.E. you can run the 100 octane file successfully with water/meth and 93 octane gas. There are few good options for this but it may require a good amount of install work and adjusting to get right but are extremely rewarding.
- There are a few main kits but before you buy W/M id recommend checking out this thread http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50805 which has all you need to know about water/meth with our applications.
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