Road course is almost always going to come down to drive mod. 99% of people buying either car won't have the abilities to drive either car at 9/10 or 10/10 on a road course. Not everyone is Randy Pobst.
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Thread derailed.....ugly car discussion and blue holes.....
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Will check it out.
very typical stage 2 numbers, which is why I laugh at people who bash the jb4.
Diggs24
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Ahhh, back in the day when you could run 9+ psi with an R. Good luck trying that in a MK7.5
JB4 with ethanol is a great combo.
Same parts moved over to my 2019. Needs a tcu tune but otherwise runs well. Traps 115 and runs 11.8s
Diggs24
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I guess I'm not comfortable running an AFR of almost 15 through the middle of 4th. Be careful out there....
Hoon
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I wouldn't touch those AFRs with Railroader's pistons.
Massive lost power too. Contrary to the bullshit boomers like to write on the internet, lean is not mean.
Massive lost power too. Contrary to the bullshit boomers like to write on the internet, lean is not mean.
george has seen the logs hasn’t expressed any concerns, based on trap speeds it’s not losing massive power either.
Hoon
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Guess my dyno lies then...
George isn't concerned because his business depends on selling JB4s.
I'm assuming same driver. I lapped a ZL1, Viper, and several Corvettes at Daytona in a completely stock 19 GTI when it was new and I'm just a decent driver. I totally get that it's driver dependent.
Not saying you're dyno lies, just that the car traps over 115 so I'm not sure where the massive power loss is since that's right where I would expect it. If it was losing massive power it wouldn't be trapping what it is.
Time to go bother him some more.
SnailpowerMk7
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This is why I hate the fact that VW can't make a solid manual when a Type-R manual can keep up/outperform a DSG R. There should be no excuse for it. I knew buying my manual it wouldn't perform on par with a DSG but it shouldn't have been the case. There are PLENTY of fast manual cars out there that would smoke a DSG when properly driven. Just VW probably being cheap about it to save money regarding the clutch, etc.
As far as this matchup goes, the Type-R stock is like 310hp. Once it gets moving, it moves. The R should take it from a dig because AWD but a roll race would favor the Type-R easily since all power going to the 2 wheels instead of all 4. I'm not sure how much a tune gives a Type-R but if it's already at 310hp, it probably gets closer to around 350+. That's a lot of powa going to the two front wheels. You're tuned as well though so it should balance it out. I'd say it's a pretty close race though. What about weights involved? I'm not sure how much the Type R weighs but that can play a major role. Honda's are typically lighter weight cars in comparison to VW. At least in the past they were.
As far as this matchup goes, the Type-R stock is like 310hp. Once it gets moving, it moves. The R should take it from a dig because AWD but a roll race would favor the Type-R easily since all power going to the 2 wheels instead of all 4. I'm not sure how much a tune gives a Type-R but if it's already at 310hp, it probably gets closer to around 350+. That's a lot of powa going to the two front wheels. You're tuned as well though so it should balance it out. I'd say it's a pretty close race though. What about weights involved? I'm not sure how much the Type R weighs but that can play a major role. Honda's are typically lighter weight cars in comparison to VW. At least in the past they were.
OP is a stage 2 car asking about racing a Type-R with just a tune. He's going to gap it if they actually race.
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With Takumi scratching his thread in confusion and Itsuki berating him for not knowing anything about cars