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yakev724

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@oneb1t great work!
if you could collaborate with https://github.com/Switchleg1/SimosTools to display some custom ECU values that would be epic.

https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/open-source-tuning-solution.380998/
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/simos-tools-new-phone-datalogging-app.389270/


Here's a competitor product that does something similar, but their PIDs are crude and so don't really fit use cases that simos overcomes. Also requires an external box.

https://kermatdi.com/i-2525-polar-fis-customizable-engine-data-display-mqb-a-1.html
 

yakev724

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2015 S3
The Vektor is a more "intrusive" solution but seems to be updated regularly, and looks quite good.

Link? I’m happy with simos and will keep using it for logging but a more “casual” solution for displaying boost and various temps without having to run a separate android device would be fantastic.
 

Cuzoe

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Location
Los Angeles
@yakev724 Found my bookmark, I was actually thinking of the VADpro, which just plugs into the OBD port but you can customize displays and do logging (not sure how/if it compares to what SimosTools can do)...
https://www.vadpro.com/products/vadpro32-mk7-mqb-golf-platform

Although there is also the Vektor...
https://www.uspmotorsports.com/prod...y-gauge-for-vw-mk7-gti-golf-r-switch-75033674

I haven't personally used or seen either, and the PolarFIS is cheaper (as it uses your existing dash for display). But the other two options seem better, to me.
 

oneb1t

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Czech Republic
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MK7 103kW 2013
My gut still tells me it's in the long coding for the steering wheel buttons, just haven't had the time to go through those bits. They have no description in VCDS or ODIS.
If that is the case then 28ffffff should do it if looks like this coding is done via adaptations for 9 central electric unit

But that must mean that different CAN message is created by up/down buttons (and not handled by VC). Also maybe VC software version is important I have 5q0920791 without letter index.
 

Cuzoe

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Los Angeles
If that is the case then 28ffffff should do it if looks like this coding is done via adaptations for 9 central electric unit

But that must mean that different CAN message is created by up/down buttons (and not handled by VC). Also maybe VC software version is important I have 5q0920791 without letter index.
I'm not sure about the 09 coding. I'm talking about the coding for MFSW Control Module, it's a slave module of 19 Gateway.

I had 5Q0920791A which I updated to 5Q0920791B. Update to B got the VIEW button working.
Although at one point I had the VIEW button working even with A software. At the time I was messing with those bits to get the heated steering wheel button to work (Mk8 Wheel)

I've never been able to get the arrows working to zoom in/out though. They just show me the most recent navigation destinations.
 

oneb1t

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Czech Republic
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MK7 103kW 2013
Sorry I mean 19 not 9 :) can you show what parts affected this view button? The update should be possible also from my indexless cluster do if I can get zoom functionality I will go for it and update it to B index.
 

Cuzoe

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Location
Los Angeles
I don't remember, and I didn't write it down, stupidly. Once I updated to software B it began working straight away with no change to my coding.

This is my coding now, but this is with Mk8 steering wheel, touch buttons PN 1EA 959 442 B...

Code:
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 AR    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   521 5502 
   Serial number: 11102000840992 Dataset Number: SET_FPA_MOD 0001
   Coding: 0109000810087300DBEC92FDFF0F00000001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   GVL: 01543C100000000040CC800090004C0000000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013026
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7F5B0CE377721312761-802A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1EA 959 442 B    HW: 1EA 959 442 B
   Component: MFL  H03 0217
   Serial number: 17036218093222101678
   Coding: 2E2B00

No fault code found.
 

oneb1t

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Czech Republic
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MK7 103kW 2013
Maybe something in VCDS log folder? :)

This is my setup:

19 - LL_GatewUDS (EV_GatewLear_013)

System designationGW MQB High
Software version1265
Hardware version125
VW/Audi part number5Q0907530AM
Hardware part number5Q0907530F
Coding030100042B086400EF000248080F00010001000000000000000000000000
ASAM/ODX file identificationEV_GatewLear
ASAM/ODX file version013020


[VO]_Multi_function_steering_wheel_control_module Coding Value:
[LN]_Tiptronic:[VN]_not installed
[LN]_Temp Sensor:[VN]_not installed
[LN]_MuFu-variant_VW:[VN]_GRA-High
[LO]_development_1:[VN]_active
[LO]_development_2:[VN]_not active
[LO]_MuFu-variant_Skoda:[VO]_not installed
[LO]_MuFu-variant_Seat:[VO]_not installed


Subsystem number49
System designationE221__MFL-DC1
Software version0035
Hardware versionH14
VW/Audi part number5G0959442J
Coding
Subsystem - 006 Read coding: Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module
Byte00:
0010 1000 ($28)
Byte01:
0000 0000 ($00)
Byte02:
0000 0000 ($00)

I do not see anything obvious to mess with to make any impact on what buttons are doing :-/

I searched for a while and it is possible that old gateway is unable to set zoom function or there is some hidden setting for cluster itself to represent button press
 
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ksurl

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Socal
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18 GTI SE DSG
Will updating mib2 firmware brick the digital display since there was non factory coding done to the mib2? component protection was not disabled in my case, it was activated via vas5054a dongle and odis
 

Cuzoe

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Location
Los Angeles
Will updating mib2 firmware brick the digital display since there was non factory coding done to the mib2? component protection was not disabled in my case, it was activated via vas5054a dongle and odis
No, they aren't connected... in that way. Updating either of them will not impact the other. Although I don't recommend updating the digital display... for reasons.
 

ksurl

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Socal
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18 GTI SE DSG
No, they aren't connected... in that way. Updating either of them will not impact the other. Although I don't recommend updating the digital display... for reasons.
I don't even know how you would update the display. I'm just talking about updating the mib via sdcard/usb drive from the infotainment. sometimes audio doesn't work and the workaround is to swap sources and back. or phone carplay disconnects. wondering if MST2_US_VW_P0867D->P0879D fixed it
 

Cuzoe

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Location
Los Angeles
I don't even know how you would update the display. I'm just talking about updating the mib via sdcard/usb drive from the infotainment. sometimes audio doesn't work and the workaround is to swap sources and back. or phone carplay disconnects. wondering if MST2_US_VW_P0867D->P0879D fixed it
No worries at all when updating. The digital display has no way of "knowing" you updated anything, MIB or anything else.

As far as updating the display, it takes about 8 hours, done with ODIS, would highly recommend doing it on an MQB test bench, assuming you ignore the equally strong recommendation to leave well enough alone...
https://golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/what-did-you-do-to-your-mk7-today.316916/post-7965887
 

ksurl

Go Kart Champion
Location
Socal
Car(s)
18 GTI SE DSG
No worries at all when updating. The digital display has no way of "knowing" you updated anything, MIB or anything else.

As far as updating the display, it takes about 8 hours, done with ODIS, would highly recommend doing it on an MQB test bench, assuming you ignore the equally strong recommendation to leave well enough alone...
https://golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/what-did-you-do-to-your-mk7-today.316916/post-7965887
Ok, I was wondering since the guide I read/watched from mr-fix on here and youtube on how to update the mib said it will wipe any customizations and patches installed. Not sure if it would affect coding for the digital dash.
 

esteticu

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Romania
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GTE
Because of my ignorance, for my 2015 Golf GTE I've got the virtual cluster for e-Golf (795 A) instead of the GTE one (794 A).

After online CP removal, it works great, including the RPM, except the fuel level. Anybody knows if I can make it work from coding or admap? Can anybody share his admap? Or firmware file?

Thank you!
R

AFTER retrofit:

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 5G1 920 795 A HW: 5G1 920 795 A
Component: KOMBI 407 3194
Coding: 07AC7B886FCC060001886B1F5601030000000000
Shop #: WSC 20239 005 104857
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009058
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 2E0E669A30991D3A8DF-807A

1 Fault Found:
13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
U1014 00 [00001001] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 116054 km
Date: 2024.03.25
Time: 22:25:16


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BEFORE:

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 5G1 920 754 HW: 5G1 920 754
Component: KOMBI 306 4300
Coding: 07251B086FCC000800887A1B1601000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009042
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 6882D082D2FD830AA7B-803D

No fault code found.

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