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PerceivedShift

Ready to race!
Location
Virginia
I would like to stress that members on the list are not offering services with no costs. Some members may do work or offer their tools and services for no cost, but if you don't know a member from atom please don't assume they'll help you for free. I had a member contact me who wanted a substantial amount of work done. He wasn't flexible on times to meet and seemed to think I'd give him a few hours of my time for nothing in return. I'd be glad to help him, use of my garage, tools, and knowledge...but I value my time and expect anyone using my resources to value it as well. I will expect you to come to me, not the other way around! This means exchanging something in return for our services. For example: A clutch replacement/upgrade costs $1250 in labor at a local shop, I don't think it's too much to ask to pay a fraction of that cost to someone who has done it before and has all the necessary tools on hand to get the job done in an afternoon.
 

Diggs24

Autocross Champion
Location
de plains! de plains!
Car(s)
2015 GTI; 2003 Saab
And say something goes wrong with the clutch job unrelated to your free work. Now they hound you to fix it. This is why I don't work on other people's cars.
 

swcrow

Autocross Newbie
Location
Virginia
I would like to stress that members on the list are not offering services with no costs. Some members may do work or offer their tools and services for no cost, but if you don't know a member from atom please don't assume they'll help you for free. I had a member contact me who wanted a substantial amount of work done. He wasn't flexible on times to meet and seemed to think I'd give him a few hours of my time for nothing in return. I'd be glad to help him, use of my garage, tools, and knowledge...but I value my time and expect anyone using my resources to value it as well. I will expect you to come to me, not the other way around! This means exchanging something in return for our services. For example: A clutch replacement/upgrade costs $1250 in labor at a local shop, I don't think it's too much to ask to pay a fraction of that cost to someone who has done it before and has all the necessary tools on hand to get the job done in an afternoon.
Are you kidding me? Unreal. I will update the first post to reflect AND that the helper is not at fault for any service they provide. This was never designed as a "free service" for everything......
 

Ramon64124

Go Kart Newbie
Location
Kansas
I sign a waiver when i help friends at no cost. I am not responsible for any issues that may arise. If they pay you, then you become somewhat liable for what happens. I also make sure they know how to do it when we are done. I never do more than 50% of the work. Teach a man how to fish. Had a member help me once, and he came to me, but my car was all kinds of busted in my garage, and I was super depressed. I think it was morale support more than anything. With that said, no one should expect "free" work. I always offer something. Food, money, and I owe you, something. it's a 2-way street.

Had a local guy from my group contact me to do his spark plugs, at his job, during work hours.I told him i could make it work, if he paid me for gas and 1 hour of my time, since i had to go pick up my tools and leave work early, to accommodate for him. Needless to say, he said he could get it done cheaper somewhere else. It was literally 35 bucks.


some people just suck.
 

Diggs24

Autocross Champion
Location
de plains! de plains!
Car(s)
2015 GTI; 2003 Saab
YEA!! he cursed when he could not get the rear turbo fittings too, and took him a couple hours to the the coolant hose out. Know him?
I've heard stories and based on those I'm surprised you let him work on your car. Also, coolant hoses with coolant all over them are slippery. Let's cut that guy some slack....
 

JerseyDrew77

Autocross Champion
Location
Virginia & NC
I'm all about helping others out for just a 6 pack of Belgium beer that I like but you have to come to my garage, not the other way around.
 
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