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Lowline Reverse Camera Retrofit
- Thread starter Parabola
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Again, I can only reply for RoW based Golfs.
As factory built and as shown on my wiring diagram on page 1 of this thread - F18 is connected to the Reversing camera (R189) and to the Rear lid handle release button (E234). Because E234 needs to operate when the ignition is OFF, the voltage supply must be T30! This is confirmed on the column called "Terminal" in my picture ("Terminal" is the "T" in T30).
Your last response suggests that you might have simply spliced the camera +12V supply into the pin#18 wire on the Quadlock connector without installing a separate fuse.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with electrical protection theory and I apologize if you already know this stuff - but it ain't good practice if you didn't use a separate fuse.
The problem is that the factory wire that's terminated on pin#18 (Quadlock) is protected by a 20 Amp fuse on the F12 slot. As shown on my wiring diagram, the factory fuse for the camera (on F18 slot) is 7.5 Amp.
If you haven't installed a separate fuse on your project, it means that 2.7 times (i.e. 20 divided by 7.5) more Amps will be allowed to flow into the camera module when a fault occurs. Because of electricity law, this means that over 7 times more power (power=Amp squared) will be allowed to be injected into the fault before the fuse blows! This ain't good protection design!!!
So, if you leave the +12V camera wire connected to pin#18 - install a separate 7.5 amp in-line fuse into the camera wire, please. And as I have said in a previous response - physically place the new fuse somewhere accessible!
With this arrangement, the battery supply for the camera +12V wire will contain 2 x fuses which are effectively connected in series; the 20 Amp fuse from F12 slot and the "downstream", new 7.5 Amp fuse. Good fuse protection practice (it's called "fuse grading") allows series connected fuses if the second fuse is no larger than half the rating of the first fuse. So, a 20 Amp/7.5 Amp series connection of fuses is OK
Hope this makes sense!!
Don
As factory built and as shown on my wiring diagram on page 1 of this thread - F18 is connected to the Reversing camera (R189) and to the Rear lid handle release button (E234). Because E234 needs to operate when the ignition is OFF, the voltage supply must be T30! This is confirmed on the column called "Terminal" in my picture ("Terminal" is the "T" in T30).
Your last response suggests that you might have simply spliced the camera +12V supply into the pin#18 wire on the Quadlock connector without installing a separate fuse.
I'm not sure how familiar you are with electrical protection theory and I apologize if you already know this stuff - but it ain't good practice if you didn't use a separate fuse.
The problem is that the factory wire that's terminated on pin#18 (Quadlock) is protected by a 20 Amp fuse on the F12 slot. As shown on my wiring diagram, the factory fuse for the camera (on F18 slot) is 7.5 Amp.
If you haven't installed a separate fuse on your project, it means that 2.7 times (i.e. 20 divided by 7.5) more Amps will be allowed to flow into the camera module when a fault occurs. Because of electricity law, this means that over 7 times more power (power=Amp squared) will be allowed to be injected into the fault before the fuse blows! This ain't good protection design!!!
So, if you leave the +12V camera wire connected to pin#18 - install a separate 7.5 amp in-line fuse into the camera wire, please. And as I have said in a previous response - physically place the new fuse somewhere accessible!
With this arrangement, the battery supply for the camera +12V wire will contain 2 x fuses which are effectively connected in series; the 20 Amp fuse from F12 slot and the "downstream", new 7.5 Amp fuse. Good fuse protection practice (it's called "fuse grading") allows series connected fuses if the second fuse is no larger than half the rating of the first fuse. So, a 20 Amp/7.5 Amp series connection of fuses is OK
Hope this makes sense!!
Don
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Parabola
Go Kart Champion
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- Black hole sun
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- 15 GTI, 22 Tiguan
Yes, it makes perfect sense and my non-fused Quadlock connection is only temporary as I didn’t have the proper fuse on hand, my plan is to route the wire to F18 fuse slot. I agree 20A is almost 3x more than what camera wiring can take in case of the fault.
Parabola
Go Kart Champion
- Location
- Black hole sun
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- 15 GTI, 22 Tiguan
Finally I was able to find a few uninterrupted hrs and feed the wire to the fuse panel and added 7.5A fuse into F18 slot. Whoever designed that pink locking tab in the fuse panel should never design anything again…major pain in the arse to move out of place.
anotero
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- Mk7 GTI
Too late to the party, but black hole sun is a song by Soundgarden.hmm...........the wire colors in your pictures are not familiar to me.
I'm trying to understand what country this car is from. Alas your humorous description for location - "Back hole sun" isn't helping. As an aside and assuming that you live in the milky way galaxy (like me), it's also a technically impossible set of words - because our sun ain't big enough to ever become a black hole. When our sun dies, it will simply shed its outer shell (having gobbled-up Venus and Mars) and it will become a white dwarf.
Where did you source the reverse camera? Maybe this is a North America Region (NAR) golf? On RoW model golf mk7, the wiring diagram for the low-line reverse camera is like this:
So on OEM cameras (called R189), "4bt" in the picture is the 4 x pin connector. Notice the wire colors and notice that pin #3 is not mentioned (so, the pin is not connected to a wire)
Don
