But I could have also sworn that you ALSO had to get spacers, because your new wheels fit the PP brakes when you bought the wheels, but not after you put new pads in the calipers. Was that you, or am I thinking of someone else?
I did. Right after I posted mine....
You and GTI have this on again, off again feud where it often boils down to semantics.
Jim tries to be evasive, because he knows I have a point, so he beats around the bush.
I believe that he's also running aluminum spacers, his plastic hub rings, extended bolts, a slightly heavier tire, and it's rare that manufacturers claimed weights for anything are accurate, so while he has reduced his rotating mass, it's less than he thinks,
and it's mostly near the axis, which will reduce the benefits.
He's also still on stock width AS tires, which is not at all what I was talking about. I was talking about a true performance upgrade, with wider wheels, wider tires and a real performance tire. It will be tough to end up with a real rolling stock upgrade that weighs significantly less than stock.
And no one is aggressively launching a 400whp GTI on 225 AS tires. I have 2 sets of 245 RE71R's mounted on RSE16'S and a set of 225 FK510's on a set of 7.5" wide Runlites. I have likely 280ish whp and the FK510's can't put it down. The 245 RE71R'S on 8.5" wide wheels will hold fine if launch at conservatives rpms, but barely.
At the end of the day, there's no free lunch. More grip and stiffer sidewalls add weight at the farthest point from the axis. Light rotor and wheels reduce weight close to the axis.
I do not try to be evasive.
Cut the shit. I said that I misspoke and said spacers when I meant rings. I posted that.
You are launching a manual trans. There's a big difference in launching a manual trans verses a DSG. I also told you that I have a bog when launching that keeps it from spinning plus I have the electronically locking diff. The way mine bogs off the line you would jump me at the launch. Of course I would quickly catch up just because of more power. I also told you that I have rarely launched it because I don't want to risk damage.
I don't care about the weight.
When I changed my OEM wheels from 18" to 17" it wasn't to save weight. I did it to make tires less expensive since I go through 2 sets a year. The weight savings was a bonus. And when I needed new front rotors I did choose the 2 piece rotors to save weight because why not.
All I originally said was that I cut about 15 lbs per corner period. No motive behind it. Then you started to dissect that comment. It was a simple statement that needed no comment.
That doesn't add up, because you're using both hub rings and spacers.
You didn't cut 15lbs a corner.
DSG doesn't magically make 225 AS tires have more traction.
Sorry, that's just the reality, cutting the shit, as you said.
I honestly don't give a shit. I'm not arguing and trying to prove anything. Why the hell would I lie about the traction my car has? Like I said I didn't do it to reduce weight. It was a side benefit.
Still waiting for a pair of the elusive 17x9 et45, of which I think *3* sets exist or something ridiculousJust a heads up...it appears Avanti Storm 17x9 ET35 5x112 are available again. Killer price. Fitment could be tricky though.
Just a heads up...it appears Avanti Storm 17x9 ET35 5x112 are available again. Killer price. Fitment could be tricky though.