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KESSY - Exploited, VW keys cloned.

Deviation01

Go Kart Champion
Location
St. Louis

BlueHen

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Delmarva

JB MK7 GTI SPORT

Ready to race!
Location
San Diego
If you're worried about this you can always throw the Club on the steering wheel no electronics to hack and most thieves want a quick score and will pass this for an easier target.
 

Ghawkins

Ready to race!
Location
Ohio
In the US it appears that the best deterrent against automobile theft is a manual transmission. Not so much in Europe where drivers can actually use a clutch and gearshift.
 

The Fed

Old Guys Rule
Location
Florida
I don't believe VW when they say MK7's are not affected. Perhaps this is why the Moroney sticker has no mention of an alarm system or immobilizer? Maybe VW is not responsible if systems that are not listed fail.
 

BlueHen

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Delmarva
I don't believe VW when they say MK7's are not affected. Perhaps this is why the Moroney sticker has no mention of an alarm system or immobilizer? Maybe VW is not responsible if systems that are not listed fail.

They supposedly only included four encryption keys for all the millions of affected vehicles. The Mk7, on the other hand, generates a unique encryption key each time (I think - I'm no IT expert - read the article I linked above which explains it).

Life is too short to be concerned with this, especially if you have insurance. Drive more, worry less.
 

Finglonga

Drag Racing Champion

It has been around for much longer and for every car that has keyless entry. My BMW's were both recalled for a security patch in 2010. There is no way around these things as they can improve the security but technology will be out a couple of weeks later to over-ride the fix. Buy a car with a key, I would never have a keyless entry car ever again.
 

TheWombat

Go Kart Champion
Location
Vermont
It has been around for much longer and for every car that has keyless entry. My BMW's were both recalled for a security patch in 2010. There is no way around these things as they can improve the security but technology will be out a couple of weeks later to over-ride the fix. Buy a car with a key, I would never have a keyless entry car ever again.

I suspect that soon you'll have zero choice in the matter, as the trend is towards greater electronic integration across the board, from telemetrics to operating control to ingress/egress/access control. I'd wager that in a decade finding a car without electronic entry systems, or with an actual key, will become nigh-on impossible for many manufacturers, but who knows?

In any event, not to flog a dead equine, but I noted before and I'll say again, thieves have been stealing cars since Henry Ford and Daimler's days. Far more cars with plain old keys get stolen than cars with KESSY systems. The number of thieves with technical skills to do this sort of thing will no doubt increase, but the old ways are still a hell of a lot more wide spread and will remain that way--until, as I predict, all the thieves have to become software and hardware engineers as manual locks disappear.

At that point, we're still back at square one, aren't we? People gonna steal yo shit no matter what you do.
 

2slowvw

Moderator
Location
VA
Car(s)
2022 Tesla Model 3
In the US it appears that the best deterrent against automobile theft is a manual transmission. Not so much in Europe where drivers can actually use a clutch and gearshift.

I can second this. Majority of my friends have no idea how to drive a manual transmission car.

Would also like to give a shout out to the guy who recommended using "the club" haven't seen one of those in years.
 

BlueHen

Drag Race Newbie
Location
Delmarva
yeah...like me :( Oh well, I'm sure I'll be fine. If it's stolen, I collect insurance money, so I'm not gonna sweat it.

Put the Club on that TDI until they buy it back!

I'm a member on TDI Club as well, and there are some people there who are simply garaging their TDIs until October because they have buybacks around $30k coming in October and they don't want to risk losing that.

I understand not everyone has an extra ride to do that though. Good luck!
 
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